Originally Posted by posixculprit
Back on topic, I don't see why Ubuntu should stick to the "Debian way" of doing things. Nor am I able to understand why people care(d) that GIMP is no longer part of the "default install".
I don't see why it matters either, after all ubuntu isn't debian, and doesn't owe anything to debian by staying the same. Infact it helps expand the gap between the two, which in someways is helpful.
For the general users who ubuntu is aimed at (people who I think of as needing access to the internet and maybe email) really aren't the same people I think of as needing access to an advanced tool for malnipulation of digital media.
I find it amusing how people in the past have moaned about windows shipping with various things such as internet explorer, yet see no problem shipping a distro with one program, but not another.
I know its not exactly the same but the idea of seperating the distrobution from the programs it supports is a very fine line in a normal users eyes. They dont want to see the underlying O/S and if the only way an O/S can distingish itself is by not automatically shipping with some of the applications a user associates with a different O/S then so be it.
P.S. I really quite hate ubuntu, so I'm not defending it because I love it or anything.