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Old 09-08-2006, 12:50 PM   #1
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Yet another DSL question


I have read many of the DSL questions here in the Forums but none of the Advice is working. I have an active and connected ethernet connection but still can not access the web.

I have SuSE 10 installed
I have a Linksys wired router model NR041.
I have a Dell 82801DB Pro/100 VE (LOM) ethernet card.

Internet works fine with Windows.

I have tried to configure Network card like stated in previous posts.
YaST > Network Devices > Network Card > Edit card > Static Address Setup > IP address - 192.168.1.0 > Subnet Mask - 255.255.255.0 > Host name - chris > Domain name - domain.actdsltmp > Name server 1 - 192.168.1.1 > Domain search 1 - domain.actdsltmp > Routing > Default Gateway 192.168.1.0

Still no worky.

Am I missing something here.. This is the only problem that I am having with this OS.

Also is SuSE kind of slow? It is taking the System 15 minutes just to boot up, then it takes a small wait time for programs to come up. Could this be my HD? My other HD with windows works fine with the rest of my hardware.

Thanks for any help and sorry if the answer is simple and in another forum and I Looked over it.
 
Old 09-08-2006, 01:05 PM   #2
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192.168.1.0 is not an ip address, it is a network address
if you want to set static ip's set your client ip to something between 1 and 254 (including)
and make sure nothing else is using this ip.

otherwise simply setup your linux client to work the same as your windows client. your linksys router will support dhcp so it is quite simple to have a dynamic address. YaST can set that too :-)

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Old 09-08-2006, 01:12 PM   #3
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Address 192.168.1.0 is invalid. The first address is 192.168.1.1 up to 192.168.1.254. .255 does exist but that is a broadcast address and can not be used for any host. Choose an address other than .0

The default gateway will be the address of your router on the subnet, what ever address you assign to that interface.

The DNS addresses are assigned by your ISP and should not look anything like your subnet addressing. A lot of routers will aquire the DNS addresses and pass them to your system. I prefer to edit /etc/resolv.conf and put them directly in there. Check with your ISP for correct DNS addresses.
 
Old 09-08-2006, 02:30 PM   #4
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thanks for the quick responces!

How do I assign an address to the router? How do I find out what Address I have setup? How do I set up my linux client the same way as my Windows? My setup cd that came with the router doesn't work with linux.

To be completely honest I am confused. I kinda feel like you guys are speaking greek to me lol.
 
Old 09-08-2006, 04:44 PM   #5
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You need to find the documentation for the router. Almost all routers come with some kind of a default configuration. You configure most of them by connecting a system, doesn't matter what OS, open a browser, anyone, and type the IP address of the lan side IP address in the URL bar, press send. Most of them will present you with a log on screen. The default config will have a default user name and default password. You enter those, press enter, and you are in to the configuration screens.

Most of the user documentation should show you what can be configured and where.

As far as setting up linux the same, look at windoze, TCP/IP settings. There is a field for IP address, sub-net mask DNS server etc. Write it down. There are many ways to configure linux, based on distro. I don't know Suse, but there are lots of people that do. Some distros make gui tools, and all you do is fill in the fields. What the tool does is place the different pieces of infomation in the correct file.

The other option is to find the different files and edit them as root. Either way will work. Have a look at your system and see if you can find any tools for configuration.
 
Old 09-10-2006, 06:49 PM   #6
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Okay I went under Windows HD and check my Internet information and I got

IP address: 192.168.1.100
Default/ Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers: 192.168.0.1
205.171.3.65

I reconnect my SuSE HD, waited the ungodly 30 minutes it took to start up and Input all the above info in......

Still will not connect.

What now?
And Can the fact that my Linux HD is old an only 28G be the reason it takes 30 minutes to start up??? Like it really takes a half-an-hour I timed it.
 
Old 09-11-2006, 12:35 AM   #7
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If you are getting a connection between your router and your PC, you can get to the Admin section of your router by typing 192.168.1.1 in a web browser. The easiest thing to do is use DHCP. Make sure that DHCP server is enabled on the router and your computer is connecting via DHCP.

If you have a static IP (your ISP should be able to tell you), you will need to input this information into the Network Setup section of your router. Only your router will have a static IP, the computer's IP will be assigned by the router.

This should allow you to connect unless you have something else wrong.
 
Old 09-11-2006, 08:47 AM   #8
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usaf_sp,

It does not matter if the user picks static IP addressing on the linux box or DHCP. This is the client side of the setup, either will work and there are advantages to either way of doing things. DHCP is better for machines that move from network to network, ie a laptop, however if you what to run network applications between machines at one location, static IP addressing is more trouble free, and requires less configuration.

Now on the ISP side of the ADSL router, this setup is dictated by the ISP, not the user. You have to set it up as the ISP says in order to connect to their network.

R4ms3s,

The DNS addresses I have to question.
Code:
DNS Servers: 192.168.0.1
205.171.3.65
The 192.168.0.1 address does not make sense. Your network is 192.168.1.x and 192.168.xxx.yyy is class C private network; su unless you have set up a private DNS server, this address is wrong. The 205.177.3.65 looks O.K. I can ping it, and it reporst a host name of 'resolver1.qwest.net'
If this is yoru ISP that looks good.

Could you try doing some pinging to see how far you can get. Ping you router, then try pinging you nameserver, and if they both work try pinging www.google.com. When things are set up right all will work. Let us knwo how far you can get. If everything is not working, also post the output of '/sbin/ifconfig' and 'netstat -r' commands.
 
Old 09-12-2006, 12:22 PM   #9
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How do I "Ping"?
 
Old 09-12-2006, 06:41 PM   #10
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Open a console. At the command prompt type 'ping IPaddress' A real example looks like this:
ping 192.168.0.1

Here is what you could see:

ping 192.168.0.1
PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3999ms

cliff ~ 07:38:53 > ping 192.168.1.1
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=250 time=0.629 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=250 time=0.608 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=250 time=1.00 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=250 time=0.816 ms

--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3002ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.608/0.764/1.003/0.159 ms


The first attempt on my network fails, since I don't have any 192.168.0.x addresses, and you see 100% loss.

The second attempt does work, I was pinging my router.

Hope this helps.
 
Old 09-12-2006, 08:14 PM   #11
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by far the easiest way to set it up is the same way that windoze sets itself up (unless you fiddle with it )

go to yast network network card etc, then edit your conection then hit the radio buttion marked Automatic adress setup (by DHCP)
click teh routing tab and enter the gateway as 192.168.1.1 (if that is the adress of you router which is 90% likley)

save teh config and reeeboot, then you shoudl be away

try pinging your router when you have reeboted, ping 192.168.1.1 then try pinging somthing on the web,
eg ping 72.14.207.99 (thats google)

if they both work then you shoud have a conection

thats all i did withe my various routers and it has allways worked for me! (on suse 10.0 and 10.1)
 
Old 09-12-2006, 10:05 PM   #12
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camorri-

Please re read my previous post. I was speaking of an ISP assigned static address which has nothing to do with the Linux Box but everything to do with the router/gateway. And if the ISP assigned address is static, DHCP connection to the ISP by way of the router will not work.

Since the OP is obviously new to IP addressing, DHCP for the home side of the gateway is advisible.

BTW- it appears that DHCP is enabled on the Windows boot since 192.168.1.100 (default linksys addressing) Therefore- His router is set up for DHCP and his linux box should do the same so that he can avoid the problems and confusion he is having already.

R4ms- USE DHCP ON YOUR LINUX BOX and you should be able to connect to your router. Another thing is whether or not you have a static IP address assigned by your ISP. You should call your ISP and find out. If you do, then let us know and we will help you from there.
Good Luck.

Last edited by usaf_sp; 09-12-2006 at 10:14 PM.
 
Old 09-13-2006, 07:08 AM   #13
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if the router is working undewr windoze then there shoudl be no need to change the WAN side of things, just teh lan side,
wether or not the ISP has a fixed IP is irrelivent as it must be allready set up to work with windows!
 
Old 09-13-2006, 07:35 AM   #14
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I agree. If it works in windows, DHCP on linux should be a clear cut solution.
 
Old 09-15-2006, 11:36 AM   #15
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okay so how do I set up DHCP?
 
  


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