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Sparky1 06-27-2005 12:17 PM

xine or mplayer for Suse 9.3 pro?
 
I just want to watch DVDs and some media files. Is one of these apps better than the other in Suse 9.3 pro? Sorry if this question has been asked before, I tried to do a search but it just hangs for a long time. TIA :)

reddazz 06-27-2005 01:42 PM

Just install whichever of the two you prefer because they both do the same job very well.

bedi-beparwah 06-27-2005 03:12 PM

My Dear Friends, So far as concern to my knowledge, SuSE 9.3 has NO any video player which can play DVD video file due to some certifiacte problem from DVD community.

Let me tell you one more thing, if you want to install both or any application from suSE 9.3 Source CD/DVD then it will not work. If you get source of these applications and compile and install then you can get what you desire.

but inbuilt xine or any other player lack of DVD playback plugin.

Search related links , you would definately get one link of the site from you can download these players which will be able to play DVD format.

Regards.

Sparky1 06-27-2005 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bedi-beparwah
My Dear Friends, So far as concern to my knowledge, SuSE 9.3 has NO any video player which can play DVD video file due to some certifiacte problem from DVD community.

Let me tell you one more thing, if you want to install both or any application from suSE 9.3 Source CD/DVD then it will not work. If you get source of these applications and compile and install then you can get what you desire.

but inbuilt xine or any other player lack of DVD playback plugin.

Search related links , you would definately get one link of the site from you can download these players which will be able to play DVD format.

Regards.

Yes I noticed the built in media players lack a lot of the plugins requires because of licensing issues and you cannot get them to work. That is why I was going to use an open source version. I was just wondering if anyone had a preference over one or the other, based on experience, with Suse 9.3 pro.

Thank you for your replies.

273chris 06-27-2005 06:37 PM

Hi
I wrote a long reply but it is obviously lost.
I installed Mplayer but found it slightly pixellated.
No doubt there is a way of adjusting that (if anyone knows please tell me how).
Thanks
273chris

managerdan 06-27-2005 07:08 PM

I'm lost in this area and tend to agree with bedi-beparwah. Plugins for Suse...I don't think so. I know I tried a few of them and still no luck with a successful install. Oh well.

KimVette 06-27-2005 09:32 PM

Don't fret - it is not as difficult as some make it sound.

rpmbone, rpmseek, and rpmfind all host xine libraries and decss libraries which work just fine. Just update xine-lib, install the decss library, and toss in w32codec-all libraries and you will be able to play DVDs and just about every other video file format you can imagine.

--Kim

D4ve G 06-27-2005 11:12 PM

MPlayer is hawt......:P

fragos 06-28-2005 12:46 AM

First check this URL to get the latest xine software that works with commercial DVDs.

http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/

In addition to xine and mplayer, i'd add kmplayer -- GUI front end to both that helps with the configuration. With these three you'll be able to watch a very wide range of video both streaming and Hollywood DVD.

managerdan 06-28-2005 10:48 PM

So if SuSE 9.3 has such limitations with multimedia sound, then is there a better Linux distribution?

reddazz 06-29-2005 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by managerdan
So if SuSE 9.3 has such limitations with multimedia sound, then is there a better Linux distribution?
Any multimedia issues with Suse 9.3 cn be resolved by a simple online update. I don;t know why they crippled the multimdia apps in the version that they shipped.

AlNor 06-29-2005 10:17 AM

Quote:

reddazz wrote:
I don;t know why they crippled the multimdia apps in the version that they shipped.
I just downloaded the 5 CD set. Good to know, as I had the same problem in 9.1.

I simply went and got the latest xine, kaffine and w32codecs builds and everything worked fine. Had me stumped for a bit, too.

fragos 06-29-2005 01:51 PM

SuSE is following the laws of Germany. Germany has some of the strongest intellectual property rights on the planet. In Germany you can't provide the CSS decoder necessary to view commercial movie on DVD -- think Hollywood. Software for the MP3 format is also not allowed. SuSE is a German company, even though owned by Novell, an American company. Novell has provided multi-media updates through YaST/YOU that solve the MP3 issue. The xine site I mentioned above provided the latest RPM versions to allow the watching of commercial DVD movie -- I check back often to have the latest and greatest.

vinbob 06-29-2005 02:56 PM

SuSE 9.3 is easily fixed for full multimedia support, here's an easy n00bified way of doing it..


Do an online update from Yast and install the Multimedia Packs...

Next open up Yast and in the software section open 'Change Source of Installation'.
Add the Packman Yast source;
Protocol - HTTP
Server Name - packman.iu-bremen.de
Directory on Server - suse/9.3

once that's added click on the up button so packman is at the top.
...then OK & Finish


Now in Yast open 'Install & Remove Software' and use the package manager to uninstall mplayer, kaffeine, xine-ui and libxine1.
Then reinstall those packages from the packman source (Yast will prompt you to accept the W32codecs to go with Mplayer).
This will get everything working with all codecs you'll need.

Lastly to get DVD video playback working install 'libdvdcss'.
Just download this RPM and install with Yast (You can just launch the RPM from Konqueror and click on 'Install with Yast').

Bosh..

Sparky1 06-29-2005 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fragos
First check this URL to get the latest xine software that works with commercial DVDs.

http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/

In addition to xine and mplayer, i'd add kmplayer -- GUI front end to both that helps with the configuration. With these three you'll be able to watch a very wide range of video both streaming and Hollywood DVD.

Thanks fragos,

I will look into this.:)

273chris 06-29-2005 06:10 PM

Hi all

If you haven't already read it then I can recommend the following site which goes into the advantages and disadvantages of various hardware and software solutions, and for various main distributions.

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DVD-Playback-HOWTO/index.html

I shall be studying this one intensely.

273chris

Crito 06-29-2005 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fragos
First check this URL to get the latest xine software that works with commercial DVDs.

http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/

In addition to xine and mplayer, i'd add kmplayer -- GUI front end to both that helps with the configuration. With these three you'll be able to watch a very wide range of video both streaming and Hollywood DVD.


The packages on this site (except for real player 9 rpms) worked for me with SuSE 9.3 Pro.

managerdan 06-30-2005 08:34 PM

I followed your directions closely VinBob, but unfortunately Suse 9.3 still fails at multimedia sound. The most I can get Suse to do is to play a music CD. It does play good music, but playing a CD is all it can do. Your directions were well written and easy to understand, but still no luck with Suse. Thanks for the help anyway.

fragos 06-30-2005 11:24 PM

By multimedia sound, do you mean MP3? If so and you loaded the SuSE multimedia pack #1, run amaroK or another MP3 player.

dasbooter 07-01-2005 12:02 AM

what Vinbob is or was it Vimbob is suggesting is sort of the traditional way many susers have enabled support for commercial dvd watching. I think there is even a tutorial at packmans llinks 2 linux

Sparky1 07-01-2005 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vinbob
SuSE 9.3 is easily fixed for full multimedia support, here's an easy n00bified way of doing it..


Do an online update from Yast and install the Multimedia Packs...

Next open up Yast and in the software section open 'Change Source of Installation'.
Add the Packman Yast source;
Protocol - HTTP
Server Name - packman.iu-bremen.de
Directory on Server - suse/9.3

once that's added click on the up button so packman is at the top.
...then OK & Finish


Now in Yast open 'Install & Remove Software' and use the package manager to uninstall mplayer, kaffeine, xine-ui and libxine1.
Then reinstall those packages from the packman source (Yast will prompt you to accept the W32codecs to go with Mplayer).
This will get everything working with all codecs you'll need.

Lastly to get DVD video playback working install 'libdvdcss'.
Just download this RPM and install with Yast (You can just launch the RPM from Konqueror and click on 'Install with Yast').

Bosh..

Bingo! worked like a charm, thanks.:)

John_Emad 07-02-2005 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vinbob
SuSE 9.3 is easily fixed for full multimedia support, here's an easy n00bified way of doing it..


Do an online update from Yast and install the Multimedia Packs...

Next open up Yast and in the software section open 'Change Source of Installation'.
Add the Packman Yast source;
Protocol - HTTP
Server Name - packman.iu-bremen.de
Directory on Server - suse/9.3

once that's added click on the up button so packman is at the top.
...then OK & Finish


Now in Yast open 'Install & Remove Software' and use the package manager to uninstall mplayer, kaffeine, xine-ui and libxine1.
Then reinstall those packages from the packman source (Yast will prompt you to accept the W32codecs to go with Mplayer).
This will get everything working with all codecs you'll need.

Lastly to get DVD video playback working install 'libdvdcss'.
Just download this RPM and install with Yast (You can just launch the RPM from Konqueror and click on 'Install with Yast').

Bosh..

that is really helpfull, I will surely try it

I managed to get mplayer work with just downloading its RPM and another codec which I can't remmeber

but adding packman to the sources of installation would be surely very very helpfull

svinka 07-13-2005 10:16 PM

vinbob is absolutely right. I did the same thing, only with the ftp server. Works perfect.

If you don't want to add packman to sources of installation (but it's actually better cuz packman has LOTS of good apps) just go to their website:

http://packman.links2linux.org/

go to multimedia if you want to install players and codecs etc.

Hope it helps!



svinka

flebber 07-15-2005 07:22 PM

Unfortuneately no luck thus far following vinbobs instructions, this is my first day on SUSe and getting a little confused.

I have installed the server and pressed up no probs there, then I want to install remove software and attempted to remove mplayer but I typed in mplayer pressed search it didn't have it to uninstall or install, oh well try kaffeine I found it uninstalled and attempted to reinstall, it first off wants to install from CD even with server selected, so I went back and disabled CD but now it cannot find kaffeine at all?

Oh and no can't listen to a CD either it is listed as cdrecorder in fstab so want play cd's. Frustrated at the moment oh well time for breakfast maybe that will help

svinka 07-15-2005 11:28 PM

flebber, can you fill us in more about your problem? I mean, are you sure that the PACKMAN source of installation is enabled? Because it's strange, if there were no errors when you added the source, it should be the one that the list is gathered from. And mplayer is definately there.
I only had trouble instaling KMplayer (stupid dependancies), guess i'll have to compile it.


Good luck!

svinka


P.S. I believe uninstalling and reinstalling just Kaffeine is not enough. I think you have to reinstall the whole xine engine(particulary xine-libs). Correct me if I'm wrong.

vinbob 07-16-2005 04:08 AM

By the way...

If you also add the 'guru' source you can pick up the latest KMplayer from Yast too..
In the Yast source list I usually have the Guru source just under the Packman source.

Guru Yast source;

Protocol - HTTP
Server Name - ftp.gwdg.de
Directory on Server - pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/9.3

svinka 07-16-2005 09:56 AM

Thx, vinbob! It is a good source. I suggest everyone, who wants good multimedia playback having these two sources (packman and guru).


svinka

axobeauvi 08-23-2005 09:23 PM

go here http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/
install apt and synaptic ,set it up
get all media packages - i.e. search for codecs ,players ,dvd ,etc ...
play anything

Sparky1 10-27-2005 12:03 PM

quote:
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Originally posted by vinbob
SuSE 9.3 is easily fixed for full multimedia support, here's an easy n00bified way of doing it..


Do an online update from Yast and install the Multimedia Packs...

Next open up Yast and in the software section open 'Change Source of Installation'.
Add the Packman Yast source;
Protocol - HTTP
Server Name - packman.iu-bremen.de
Directory on Server - suse/9.3

once that's added click on the up button so packman is at the top.
...then OK & Finish


Now in Yast open 'Install & Remove Software' and use the package manager to uninstall mplayer, kaffeine, xine-ui and libxine1.
Then reinstall those packages from the packman source (Yast will prompt you to accept the W32codecs to go with Mplayer).
This will get everything working with all codecs you'll need.

Lastly to get DVD video playback working install 'libdvdcss'.
Just download this RPM http://download.videolan.org/pub/lib...2.8-1.i386.rpm and install with Yast (You can just launch the RPM from Konqueror and click on 'Install with Yast').

Bosh..
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I thought this was such a good nugget of information from vinbob that I would bring it to the forefront again. I'm now running Suse 10 so the directory on packman is now suse/10.0. Everything worked out fine using the same directions along with the new directory.


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