I know this is probably the noobest noob question ever, but I just converted from fedora to suse after reading some benchmarks on their 64-bit versions and I have been trying to find a 64-bit edition of Suse but this is the best I could find. It's only one install disk that's only about 62 megabytes as far as I can tell. Is that all of it? Fedora 32-bit was 3.5 full cd's! Can someone please help me?

edit: I don't mind using a newer version of Suse than 9.1 if it's stable, its just that 9.1 is what the benchmarks I looked at were based off of.

9.1, 9.2, and 9.3 are all 64-bit and 32-bit. They are released on a hybrid DVD or 5 CD's. Both are on the same disk. Your information is incorrect.

Suse 9.3 DVD is 8 Gig's of fun.

O...K.....

But where is it? I was sure what I found couldn't be an entire operating system, but all I've done is discover 1 place where I can't find it. I need to know where I can find it.

wait.....I just read your post again and for some reason, just noticed that you said "they're both on the same disk". does that mean I don't need to get a 64-bit disk, I can just get a Suse 9x disk(ack, sounds too much like windows) and that will do 64-bit or 32-bit?

As there are multiple kernels that you can place on the same CD, so are there multiple kernel's compiled for x86 and 64bit as well as their binaries.

This is not windows. Linux doesn't suck. The kernels and binaries for both architecture's are auto-detected on install. It will give you the option of pure 64bit or 32bit. I would recommend 9.3, as 64-bit has matured alot since 9.1.

I don't think Suse 9.1 had a 64 bit version. I know 9.2 did and so does 9.3.

9.1 does when you buy it. I have it in my hand, as it were. Need it for setting up an otrs helpdesk system, as an aside.

I stand corrected.

Not at all. Who should know this pointless crap anyway? I was about to toss it in the trash.

Ok. I thought I understood but now I'm going back and trying to download it and I'm seeing that nobody has a folder for 9.3 under the x86_64 architecture. Is that not the right one for an Athlon 64? I know I used to use i386 with my old Athlon XP+, but I thought I was supposed to use x86_64 now. What's the deal?


edit: I just found a 64-bit version of 9.3, but it only has the dvd iso for download and i don't have access to a dvd-burner. Can someone just post a link to a mirror or server or soemthing where I can get it?

You want a mirror to a dvd iso?

Let me help clarify this for you. The binaries are not downloadable. They do what RedHate does and post the source only so you buy their product. The only versions of Suse you will find for download are the broke dick versions and livedvd versions.

You need to buy it if you like it. Or don't.

Where would help please?

Real ftp?

I thought it was illegal for them to do that!!!!! God, somehow I just knew that linux wouldn't be perfect forever.

And what's up with "live"? What's different about it from just SUSE?

What some people seem to fail to realize is that granted the source, anyone can do anything to get linux on any architecture. With some tweeking, you will figure it out. I'm not going to claim to be an expert. I have been using Linux since I left high school and have not returend to winsucks yet. There's no need. You want a 64-bit version for the Athlon 64. Look up cross-compiling. You can readily get the source for Suse 9.3 from the ftp mirrors: http://www.novell.com/products/linux...t_mirrors.html


What you need to do is first compile a 64-bit kernel or get a compiled athlong 64-bit kernel from kernle.org. get the 2.6.10 or something similar as this is what is included with Suse 9.2. If I can get linux compiled for a SunUltraSpark 1 or an SGI Indy R5000, where there is a will there is a way. Now, I can't just straight up tell you how to do it. Look up "cross compiling linux for Athlon" or something similar. It is a drawn out process. Also, if you have DSL, try Gentoo linux...and compile that. The ideals behind linux are that anyone can create a "flavor" of linux....but linux remains opensource. You can compile it, package it and sell it without breaking open source rules so long as the source is published. That still leaves ANYONE the option to recompile the source for thier own "flavor." I'll admit, it is becoming harder to just pick up some CDs that you can load into your 64-bit arch and just boot from and install...but who wants to be like winsucks anyways?! The journey is the most educational part of linux. If you don't learn how linux works by getting it put together on your custom built scraming 64-bit machine (I know...), then you won't understand how to use it to its full potential anyway. It's a bitter tonic...but the results are a stornger healthier understanding of what open source represents and how to contribute to the movement. Hey, just buy a linksys WRT54G wireless (model?) router...it runs a deriviative of linux...and is wicked fast...I've got one...kinda like it...tempted to install the tools and utilities for it...but I'd never know what it all is unless I had struggle with linux earlier in life.

To kinda summarize the perspective, review cross compiling and set up a system or find another distro to get you started. Never understimate the power of learning how to do things from bare code. I started back when redhat 5.2 was king...and trust me...that was a trick to install on anything anyway...but I learned a lot and you know what I've done with linux. Keep posting...I'll try to find some more answers for my next response.