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Wow ... this certainly has evolved into quite a discussion. After all I have decided to give SuSE 9.2 a try on my home machine - just to see what the hell's gonna happen. As far as swithing to Ubuntu is concerned I think I will keep SuSE 9.1 on my work machine - runs very smoothly. I think, however, that I will give the Ubuntu live CD a try.
SuSE 9.2 works fine for me. I had upgraded from SuSE 9.1, and I'm pleased to have almost perfect USB support (which I did not have in SuSE 9.1). I understand that some people have had different degrees of USB compatibility.
I'm not a Linux geek. I just want an easy to use OS that is not made by Microsoft. My main problem is that there are no binary RPMs on the SuSE FTP site as of yet, and I do not want to try compiling anything from code. Indeed, it's hard to find binary RPMs for almost anything, likely because SuSE 9.2 is not yet mainstream (i.e., jpilot, thunderbird v1.0, etc.).
Second, of course, is that my Palm doesn't work yet. But I'm willing to wait for jpilot and kernel updates to be available. I'm just thrilled that USB works so easily.
Originally posted by ubuntu-addict if this doesn't work I am switching back to Ubuntu.
Have fun using Ubuntu, ubuntu-addict. Maybe I should start a thread in a Ubuntu forum with the name "SUSE-addict" and talk trash about Ubuntu and mention how I'm switching back to SUSE and title the tread "Ubuntu v.x.x worst distro to date." Nah, that would be trolling.
Last edited by furfurdemon666; 12-12-2004 at 08:07 AM.
no problems to report here. I am one of the oddballs who installs mostly bleeding edge cvs stuff, and havent had any problem to speak of.
Wonder what is going on.. Of course, the same could be said for windows. A lot of people ran it with no trouble at all, but there are also a lot of people who had a lot of problems...
Guess thats why its good to have a choice of different distros. Find one that suits you and go use it.
I used SuSE 9.1 Pro and found it great - Never had any problems when using KDE (I never used Gnome in SuSE because it was just awful, very little worked).
So then, overall, would one say 9.2 is worse than 9.1? (A bit like how some Mandrake users say previous versions of Mandrake are better than current ones and very recent ones)
Originally posted by apachedude SuSE 9.2 works fine for me. I had upgraded from SuSE 9.1, and I'm pleased to have almost perfect USB support (which I did not have in SuSE 9.1). I understand that some people have had different degrees of USB compatibility.
I'm not a Linux geek. I just want an easy to use OS that is not made by Microsoft. My main problem is that there are no binary RPMs on the SuSE FTP site as of yet, and I do not want to try compiling anything from code.
I don't know what you're talking about here. I just downloaded the rpms to upgrade to KDE 3.3.2 from a mirror from the Novell/SUSE's ftp. There's hundreds of binary rpms to be had for SUSE 9.2 and older versions.
I also haven't had any of the problems the thread starter talked about.
Apart from a minor bother caused by my hp officejet 6100 (had the same problem in mkd 10.1 and fedora though), suse 9.2 works perfectly well for me. I have updated an existing 9.1 installation and was gobsmacked how easy, smooth and flawless that went. with regards to thunderbird and firefox: adding packman to my installation-media list sorted that one. so, i'am quite happy with suse 9.2, happier actually than with mdk 10.1 which caused rather a few problems, although all of those could finally be sorted out too. i guess I'll stay with suse 9.2, it simply seems to be the most mature of the distros i've tried so far.
Originally posted by pilotgi I don't know what you're talking about here. I just downloaded the rpms to upgrade to KDE 3.3.2 from a mirror from the Novell/SUSE's ftp. There's hundreds of binary rpms to be had for SUSE 9.2 and older versions.
I'm talking about this ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.2/README.txt
Yes, I was able to upgrade with YaST into KDE 3.3.1. That was the only thing available from the SuSE FTP site.
If I'm wrong, feel free to tell me what you did to get the rpms (for SuSE 9.2, the older ones are perfectly fine).
Just to add, I have had no problems with 9.2 at all. Its great. So much so that I bought the boxed version. Not sure why you were riddled with problems, all I have done is upgrate to KDE 3.3.1
In terms of a few general comments, let me just say that that everyone has their own preferences when it comes to distros, and that if you are a die-hard fan of "Distro A", then posting a "Distro B Sucks" thread in the dedicated Distro B forum pretty much amounts to trolling. The only purpose of that sort of thread would be stir up controversy and/or start a flamewar, neither of which serve any productive purpose.
As furfurdemon666 already said, going out of your way to post "anti-distro" comments is uncalled for. Personally, I am a huge Slack and Suse supporter, but only because they work the best for me. By the same token, other people may find my choices to be non-optimal for them, and may be equally ardent in supporting other distros which work best for them.
In this case, if you don't like Suse, just don't use it. Simple. I wish you well with Ubuntu. -- J.W.
I've been using SuSE versions 7.3 thru 9.2, and somewhat agree. I've had more problems with 9.2 than any earlier version, but those problems weren't flaws as much as stuff being made differently. It could be better, but i still like it. And seems like almost all complaints I've heard about it are about KDE-related problems, and I don't use KDE.
Complaints? Yes, I have one. Why isn't NetHack on the CD media anymore, only on DVD?
edit: just remembered having 7.3 on my old laptop.
Originally posted by apachedude I'm talking about this ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.2/README.txt
Yes, I was able to upgrade with YaST into KDE 3.3.1. That was the only thing available from the SuSE FTP site.
If I'm wrong, feel free to tell me what you did to get the rpms (for SuSE 9.2, the older ones are perfectly fine).
I see what you mean. They just haven't posted the rpms for 9.2 yet. There's also some updates for other kde apps (like amarok) under the supplementary ftp. Packman has also been adding rpms for 9.2. You can get them here:
well you all are not alone on the 9.2 issues. 9.2 loaded decent enough for me but the majority of the apps I tried to run failed. I was not able to get nmap up and going and on the 9.1 HD I have for my laptop I have 0 issues with any of the security appications i have. after then nmap issue i broke the 9.2 cd I just made and will wait to see what Novell comes up with.
my theory
I would guess that novell in all of its wonder pulled a Microsoft with the ideal that they would release a product and then fix it later. Also we must not forget why Novell purchased SuSe to begin with. Novell has never developed a deskto operating system and that is what almost killed them so there thinking was if we purchase a desktop OS company then when there server line is sold they would be in a good position to sell the front end solution and thus keep what client base they have. I think what we have in 9.2 is start of the learning curve that Novell is going into. again thats just my thoughts I could be wrong since I am not the sharpest knife in the kitchen.
I have been a loyal SuSE customer for quite a while now.
9.0 was IMHO not only their best release ever, but also the best OS I had ever tried. I was *absolutely* impressed with it.
With 9.1 the downfall began: it had quite a few bugs out of the box, which were mostly solved after months of bugfixes. Also the beautiful integration of the KDE desktop had gone.
9.2 is the buggiest SuSE release I have ever tried. I keep finding new bugs every day, some at kernel level (sad, I used to love their kernels, they were master pieces)
So Novell, I admire you for promoting linux and for your generosity, but this is IMHO not the way to go. I can also understand that these are difficult times for linux distributions, because of all the new technology, which isn't stable yet (2.6 kernels and KDE 3.3xx are good examples)
But something needs to be done. Go the same way as Mandrake or Debian maybe? A more conservative approach, rather slightly older software than bleeding edge but buggy one. (please note that I am not a fan of Mandrake, on the contrary)
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