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Old 12-08-2004, 08:47 PM   #1
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Newbie: Suse 9.1 personal upgradable ?


hi,

i'm thinking to try out suse linux. i've downloaded SUSE 9.1 Personal 700MB

however i heard it lacks lots of functionalities. and i can't find anywhere to download pro version. my question is that is it possible for me to upgrade suse personal to pro? would it be too much trouble?

thanks,
 
Old 12-08-2004, 09:34 PM   #2
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Have you tried Mandrake 10.1?

Hello, I tried Suse personal edition and thought it was the best looking Linux I have ever seen. Very Polished. But because I'm not used to it, I found the YaST installer a little weird. Have you tried Mandrake linux 10.1? I have had good luck with it and I love the urpmi installer that automatically checks package dependencies for you.
 
Old 12-09-2004, 10:54 PM   #3
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Re: Have you tried Mandrake 10.1?

thanks for the reply

well, i've both suse 9.1 live evaluation and personal ISOs, tried live-eval looks cool

currently i'm using mandrake 10.0 but having problem with X servers (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...postid=1341730), that's why i want to take a look at suse distribution...
 
Old 12-10-2004, 01:20 AM   #4
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X problems

Are you convinced that the X problems are software related? X is kinda the same across distributions. You might try a video card with a different chip set and use the xfree command line configuration to tweak it. Good luck.
 
Old 12-10-2004, 02:15 AM   #5
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Re: Newbie: Suse 9.1 personal upgradable ?

Quote:
Originally posted by xiongnu
hi,

i'm thinking to try out suse linux. i've downloaded SUSE 9.1 Personal 700MB

however i heard it lacks lots of functionalities. and i can't find anywhere to download pro version. my question is that is it possible for me to upgrade suse personal to pro? would it be too much trouble?

thanks,
Two things. Yes, I believe you can. And: SuSE 9.1 Pro is available from SuSE, just not in the CD form.

You can download a 20MB ISO from SuSE's ftp server (or one of their mirrors), burn it to a CD, and boot off it. Any part of SuSE 9.1 Pro. that you want gets downloaded from the ftp servers as you install. It's called an ftp install.

I haven't tried this, but I have heard that once 9.1 Personal is installed from the CD that you have, you can tap into the same ftp servers that are used for ftp installs. It should be easy enough. Open YaST and then click "Change Source of Installation". You should be able to add any SuSE ftp mirror. You can find a list of mirror here:

http://www.suse.com/us/private/downl...t_mirrors.html

for example: ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/suse is listed in there. You would want to tell YaST to use:

ftp.oregonstate.edu
/pub/suse/suse/i386/9.1

Just open the ftp that you're thinking about using, and see if you can find the /i386/9.1 directory. You can then add anything you want that might be missing by telling YaST to "Install and Remove Software".

Cheers!

Last edited by gd2shoe; 12-10-2004 at 02:18 AM.
 
Old 12-10-2004, 02:34 AM   #6
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xiongnu and gd2shoe:
Sure it is possible to upgrade to 9.1 Pro! It is even easier than gd2shoe suggested. There is no need to run a full installation.

Simply add the above mentioned server to your installation sources in Yast.

Yast -> Software -> Change Source of Installation -> Add -> FTP (or HTTP)

Server: ftp.suse.com (or a mirror depending on your location)
Directory: pub/suse/i396/9.1

Install your software the usual way with Yast.

figure8car: I am not sure if this is just a coincidence, but more and more people post helpful messages like yours. What do you want to tell us? "Yast is crap, use Mandrake instead"? Wow, what an elaborate answer. You probably never found out, but Yast checks for dependencies, too.
 
Old 12-10-2004, 06:08 PM   #7
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abisko00: I'd appreciate it if you would reread my post. I may not have been clear enough this time. Even if it is my fault, I just don't want to be misunderstood.

I was pointing out two things.

(1) You can get the full version by ftp.
(2) If personal edition is installed, you can add an ftp source.

You picked up on me saying (1), but not the fact that I mentioned (2). There are two reasons I mentioned (1). First, to explain why adding an ftp source works. Second, to help him in case SuSE doesn't release personal again. I don't want to give someone the impression that they need an ISO edition to get at the ftp packages.

I don't want this to sound like a flame. I'm just feeling ignored.
 
Old 12-11-2004, 10:09 AM   #8
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hi i don't mean to highjack your thread but i'm having a problem with adding an ftp source and i just didn't want to start a brand new one about the same thing.

I followed the directions on this post to add an ftp source and i got this message

Unable to create installation source from
URL 'ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/suse/suse/i386/9.1/suse/i586'
Details:
ERROR(InstSrc: E_no_instsrc_on_media)
Try again?


I've tried multiple mirrors and the same thing happens.
 
Old 12-11-2004, 10:43 AM   #9
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I have found that it is sometimes tricky to figure out what the exact path is that you should be installing from and sometimes it appears to be hit or miss.

THe current server that I am using is ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/suse/ and I have had no issues with it. I was using another server and was always getting errrors because it was full of people downloading.

Let me know if that works.
 
Old 12-11-2004, 10:50 AM   #10
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I don't want this to sound like a flame. I'm just feeling ignored.
Sorry!

xstealthrtx:

Make sure that your path ends in the 'version' directory and not deeper: ...i386/9.1

Last edited by abisko00; 12-11-2004 at 10:53 AM.
 
Old 12-11-2004, 02:35 PM   #11
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Make sure that your path ends in the 'version' directory and not deeper: ...i386/9.1

thanks! works perfect now!
 
Old 12-11-2004, 02:50 PM   #12
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abisko00: accepted.

You are 100% right that the install directory should end in the version number. The first time I tried to install SuSE I had trouble with this...

SuSE offers their distro for more than one type of processor/architecture. The i386 in this case is just tells us that this folder is for pentuim chips and ones like it (the 80386 was two generations before the pentium). Inside this folder we typically find a folder for each version of SuSE that is on the server. In this case you want 9.1 . The i586 directory inside it holds packages for newer processors. You don't need to get stuff from there. If YaST can get to the 9.1 directory, it knows where to find the i586 stuff.

A bit long winded, but I felt like reinforcing the correct answer with some understanding.
 
Old 12-11-2004, 11:13 PM   #13
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thanks everyone for the advice and inputs...

i'll install suse on my PC as soon as i done with my finals next week

Last edited by xiongnu; 12-11-2004 at 11:16 PM.
 
  


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