...and a "Golden" two cents at that! I agree! It is almost as if they accidently released their "first draft" of rough ideas instead of anything close to a finished product. Are they really that desperate? I hope not! I really do want them to succeed, but I can't afford to waste my time and money fixing their problems. I'll wait until the good people on linuxquestions.org to give it a thumbs up before I buy another Suse release. I want to support them and their efforts, but that doesn't mean I want to be their toilet paper!

I bought all my copies of Linux. Suse 9.0 was the full retail with the manuals....the others were without. My first Window$ XP Pro was a copy, but I since bought a full retail of XP Pro 64. This was only because I kept having problems with Windows, so I thought perhaps it was just my copy. HA! Am I dreaming or what? In fact, I have more problems now as far as programs not working. Why? Because M$ only threw it out there when Linux had for quite some time touted 64 bit OS's. The lack of software ported to 64 is ridiculous. Most of them are ignoring XP 64 and desperately waiting for Vista! I also picked up a copy of XP Pro when I bought my wife a laptop. Actually, it isn't really an official copy, but more of a recovery disk. I guess in a way, that's OK...It just means I'll have to erase programs I don't want every time I re-install. Gee, thanks, Billy for giving me no options! I am still pissed off that I have to call the SOB's every time I do a re-install so they can approve my re-installation. Who the "H", "E", double hockey-sticks owns my computer? Is it me, or is it in truth, Bill? Mark my words, Bill Gates WILL destroy the computer industry with his greed if he gets his way!

Anywho...The good news is that I did a smart update and upgrade from my text prompt and after an hour or so, it upgraded a bunch of stuff. Now....for the moment.....it seems that my Suse 10.1 is working again. Since it had stopped working after my last Smart upgrade, I figured perhaps they screwed something up and now had a fix for it. It would appear I was correct. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Hi I just installed SLED x86_64 RC3, got Firefox with plugins for java, Flashplayer, etc. I installed Smart and added repos there, because I can't add repos in Yast, error: can't syncronize with ZMD. Never mind with the help of Smart I got Xine playing Windows media-files, asf, wmw and Mpeg also got Xmms with MP3 working just fine. Guess I have to update with Smart, Novell only added one repo, SLED/update. So far everything is just fine, hope it will last Manually installed nVidia drivers v87.62, so I got 3D acceleration working also.

Yes, you have to add more to YAST's selection I guess.


Out of sheer morbid curiosity, does anyone know why it sounds like my hard-drive works overtime in Linux? When I'm in windows, it is quiet after bootup....But in Suse, even when it is just sitting there waiting for me to give my password and log-in, it is chugging away at something or another. Now, ten minutes after boot, it is finally silent.

you could run top right after login and try to see what's using the hd. sounds like a lot of services are still thrashing around. ten minutes sounds like a long time, though.

carcassonne,

With the YOU woes aside (based on what I've read, folks on slower connections are more affected than users on high speed connections - I can tell you I haven't run into a problem with YOU specifically yet) 10.0 is a HECK of a lot better than 10.1, plus yum works out of the box now - a huge plus. What I dislike in 10.1 is smart - why display all the packages in a huge list and give users no ability to organize the list? A huge unsorted list is a good feature, don't get me wrong, but if I want to browse for apps I haven't tried before (say, image editors or CAD packages) how the heck am I going to find them if I don't know what name to look for in the first place?

Where is 10.1 better?

KDE-Samba works out of the box
It can join a domain
the Exchange connector is fixed
yum ('nuff said!)

What do I miss?

installation-sources is history (I liked being able to just run a shell script to add repositories to YAST)

Morbid,

That's odd. Do you have Beagle turned on, and is it indexing? What does "top" tell you for busy processes?

Top?? What foreign tongue do you speak? How do you use, "Top"? Here is something else that just happened. When booting, my keyboad would not work and allow me the choise between Linux and Windows. Then, for my log-in screen, it decided to start working again. I replied to this thread and afte bring up a radio program with Real and piddling around a bit, suddenly it froze. Neither the keyboad or the mouse worked at all. I had to reset, then booted into Windows to see if it was OK there. Which means it gave me the option this time. Then I rebooted back into Linux and BAM....no option again even if I had wanted one. Yet, once into the password prompt, it worked just fine. As far as the HD issue goes....Today it booted up just fine, but many of the other days that HD...ooops....No, strike that, there it goes...writing something or another.

I forget what it was, but I had an issue with 10.0 as well.

You use top by typing top into a terminal and pressing Enter.
It displays a list of running processes, with the one that is using the most processor cycles at the top. It also shows Ram load and a bunch of other stuff. You can kill processes from within top (providing you have the right permissions). Use k to kill and then type in the corresponding PID number.
To exit top press q.

If nothing else, top is a great way to see what is thrashing the system.

Regarding top i just looked do 90 processes seem a lot ,processor activity is low though so its not hammering that.

I'm typing this on SuSE 10.1 and according to gkrellm I have 150 processes running.

Regarding disk thrashing after booting up, it is beagle-add-in, gzip and find that cause this (or at least, it is they who were causing this system to register near 100% processor usage in the first few minutes after boot). I can only presume they are all connected to the beagle system.

Top sounds.....Top Notch! I knew there had to be some way of doing that but couldn't figure out how. I'll have to check that out tonight. Thank you!

It seems like Beagle was doing more than a little bit of "leg-humping" your system. It would not surprise me if that is what is going on with mine.

hey salparadise, had the same issue, and heard that you have to remove beagle otherwise beagle jusr grinds your harddrive away. Once i removed it, and restarted, it stopped grinding and everything returned to normal. Oh and i got some speed

top - 10:49:28 up 53 min, 3 users, load average: 0.14, 0.05, 0.14
Tasks: 111 total, 1 running, 109 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie
Cpu(s): 0.0% us, 0.2% sy, 0.0% ni, 99.7% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.2% si
Mem: 1028180k total, 711676k used, 316504k free, 27116k buffers
Swap: 1044216k total, 176k used, 1044040k free, 214464k cached


Ok, this is what I got with top.

Yes, I see Beagle running.....In about two shakes and a hollar.....I'ma gonna send that puppy pack'n.

Ouch!!! Dogie bites back! I get dependencies out the yang-yang when I try to remove Beagle. Should I continue?

What does that mean? If it is telling you that it needs to remove other items, Let it. It will only offer to remove items that are ONLY used by beagle.

You can turn off the Indexing in Beagle, thus stopping the disk scanning presumably.
Applications > Utilities > Desktop > Beagle Settings. Turn off "Start Search and Indexing Services Automatically". I have this turned off on my SuSE laptop and I don't get any of this disk grinding at boot.

As an aside, I can't say I'm over impressed with Beagle et al. Install findutils-locate, su to root and type updatedb and then find stuff on the comand line with locate filename, you can always pipe stuff to grep to refine the search. It's faster (seemingly) than gui searches and it's always good to know the command line way of doing stuff.