How do I capture online-streaming video's via OpenSuSE 11.4?

cbjhawks · 02-23-2013, 01:29 AM

At one time I was able to download video's via IE 8 and a plugin from RealPlayer...the plugin only worked with IE not FireFox...since I crashed my XP install and had to go to all linux I havent been able to find the same for Chrome browser...my Firefox install will not even play vidoes (think I have a Flash issue) so I'm stuck using Chrome for YouTube and other video's...is there a program that I have or can install that will capture online video's ??

rigor · 02-23-2013, 06:13 PM

I might be able to give you some ideas about some of the underlying issues you are having. I realize this won't handle all your issues, but hopefully some of this will help you solve some of your issues.

re - "had to go to all linux":

If the XP install was legit, AFAIK, there usually ought to be some way to re-install it. Even with MS-Windows media that comes with some restriction phrased somewhat similarly to "For use with a New PC", someone is supposed to be Licensed for that instance of Windows, whether the end User or the PC "Manufacturer". At one point I bought an Acer PC with Windows pre-installed, and although I ostensibly wasn't allowed to have the usual Windows install media, Acer provided so called Resource/Recovery media, with which I could restore the machine to its original state, with all the pre-installed software, including Windows, that the machine originally had at the time I bought the machine. HP tends to accomplish the same thing, with a "RECOVERY" partition on the hard drive. As I understand it, with some PC manufacturers, sometimes you don't get any of that sort of thing up front, you have to contact the manufacturer and ask for it, OR, ask them to reinstall the pre-loaded software, including Windows.

re - "Firefox install will not even play vidoes":

I'm also still using openSUSE 11.4. When I first starting doing "Flash" programming, I was driving myself crazy with what I thought was some so-called-"sandbox" or security issue, preventing me from playing videos on Firefox. Then I discovered that, really, it was only certain "formats" of videos that wouldn't play. I'm not sure it's the cause of the issue, but my understanding is that Adobe wants to drop support for "older" formats, and I suspect that's cause of the issue, as what seem to be considered the newer formats, play just fine with Flash within Firefox. I tend to use mostly Firefox, but when I finally tried the Chrome browser, the videos that didn't play on Firefox, seemingly "just played" on Chrome. I don't believe I even installed any special plug-ins. That doesn't mean that Chrome doesn't have some plug-ins. It may that be that SUSE just provided them with the install of Chrome, OR, Chrome may just be able to use whatever plug-ins have been made generally available, those that are not just installed "privately" for Firefox, OR both. I've included the list of plug-ins that the Chrome I have installed finds. I was hoping the list would be more readable than it turned out to be, when included between CODE tags. Instead there's all sorts of unfortunate "wrapping" of the longer lines. But hopefully it will still be of some help to you. I have Chrome 18.0.1025.142 installed. Placing:

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chrome://plugins/

in the "location bar/box", this is conceptually what chrome shows me:

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Plug-ins
Plug-ins (16)		
Details
Remoting Viewer
Name:	Remoting Viewer
Version:	
Location:	internal-remoting-viewer
Type:	PPAPI (in-process)
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/vnd.chromium.remoting-viewer		
.
pepper-application/x-chromoting		
.
Disable   Allow
Native Client
Name:	Native Client
Version:	
Location:	/opt/google/chrome/libppGoogleNaClPluginChrome.so
Type:	PPAPI (in-process)
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/x-nacl	Native Client Executable	
.nexe
Disable   Allow
Chrome PDF Viewer
Name:	Chrome PDF Viewer
Version:	
Location:	/opt/google/chrome/libpdf.so
Type:	PPAPI (in-process)
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/pdf	Portable Document Format	
.pdf
application/x-google-chrome-print-preview-pdf	Portable Document Format	
.pdf
Disable   Allow
Flash - Version: 11.2 r202
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
Name:	Shockwave Flash
Version:	11.2 r202
Location:	/usr/lib64/browser-plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/x-shockwave-flash	Shockwave Flash	
.swf
application/futuresplash	FutureSplash Player	
.spl
Disable   Allow
Java - Version: 1.6.0_31
The next generation Java plug-in for Mozilla browsers.
Name:	Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_31
Description:	The next generation Java plug-in for Mozilla browsers.
Version:	1.6.0_31
Location:	/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-sunjdk-1.6.0/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/x-java-vm	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet	Java™ Plug-in Applet	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.5	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;version=1.6	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.6.0_31	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean	Java™ Plug-in JavaBeans	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.1	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.2	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.3	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.1	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.2	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.3	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.3.1	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.1	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.2	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.5	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;version=1.6	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.6.0_31	Java™ Plug-in	
.
application/x-java-vm-npruntime	Java™ Plug-in	
.
Disable   Allow
Silverlight Plug-In
3.0.40818.0
Name:	Silverlight Plug-In
Description:	3.0.40818.0
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib64/moonlight/plugin/libmoonloader.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/x-silverlight	Novell Moonlight	
.xaml
application/x-silverlight-2	Novell Moonlight	
.
Disable   Allow
PackageKit
Plugin for Installing Applications (new)
Name:	PackageKit
Description:	Plugin for Installing Applications (new)
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib64/browser-plugins/packagekit-plugin.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/x-packagekit-plugin	PackageKit Plugin	
.bsc
Disable   Allow
NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 1.4.4
nspluginwrapper is a cross-platform NPAPI plugin viewer, in particular for linux/i386 plugins.
This beta software is available under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Name:	NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 1.4.4
Description:	nspluginwrapper is a cross-platform NPAPI plugin viewer, in particular for linux/i386 plugins.
This beta software is available under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/x86_64/linux/npwrapper.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
unknown/mime-type	Do not open	
.none
Disable   Allow
gxine starter plugin
will start external gxine media player for embedded media streams
Name:	gxine starter plugin
Description:	will start external gxine media player for embedded media streams
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib64/gxine/gxineplugin.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
video/mpeg	 MPEG animation	
.mpeg	.mpg	.mpe
video/x-mpeg	 MPEG animation	
.mpeg	.mpg	.mpe
audio/mpeg2	 MPEG audio	
.mp2
audio/x-mpeg2	 MPEG audio	
.mp2
audio/mpeg3	 MPEG audio	
.mp3
audio/x-mpeg3	 MPEG audio	
.mp3
audio/mpeg	 MPEG audio	
.mpa	.abs	.mpega
audio/x-mpeg	 MPEG audio	
.mpa	.abs	.mpega
audio/mpegurl	 MPEG URL	
.m3u
audio/x-mpegurl	 MPEG URL	
.m3u
video/quicktime	 Quicktime animation	
.mov	.qt
video/x-quicktime	 Quicktime animation	
.mov	.qt
video/msvideo	 AVI animation	
.avi
video/x-msvideo	 AVI animation	
.avi
application/x-mplayer2	 mplayer2	
.asf	.asx	.asp
video/x-ms-asf-plugin	 mms animation	
.asf	.asx	.asp
audio/x-ogg	 OGG Media	
.ogg	.ogm
audio/x-scpls	 MPEG audio	
.pls
Disable   Allow
Xine Plugin
Xine Plugin version 1.0.2, (c) The Xine Project.
Windows Media Player / RealPlayer / QuickTime compatible.
Name:	Xine Plugin
Description:	Xine Plugin version 1.0.2, (c) The Xine Project.
Windows Media Player / RealPlayer / QuickTime compatible.
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib64/browser-plugins/xineplugin.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/annodex	 Annodex media	
.anx
application/x-annodex	 Annodex media	
.anx
audio/annodex	 Annodex audio	
.axa
audio/x-annodex	 Annodex audio	
.axa
video/annodex	 Annodex video	
.axv
video/x-annodex	 Annodex video	
.axv
audio/x-aiff	 AIFF audio	
.aif	.aiff
audio/aiff	 AIFF audio	
.aif	.aiff
audio/x-pn-aiff	 AIFF audio	
.aif	.aiff
audio/x-flac	 FLAC Audio	
.flac
audio/flac	 FLAC Audio	
.flac
audio/x-realaudio	 RealAudio File	
.ra
audio/basic	 ULAW (Sun) audio	
.snd	.au
audio/x-basic	 ULAW (Sun) audio	
.snd	.au
audio/x-pn-au	 ULAW (Sun) audio	
.snd	.au
audio/x-tta	 True Audio	
.tta
audio/tta	 True Audio	
.tta
audio/x-mod	 SoundTracker/NoiseTracker/ProTracker Module	
.mod
audio/mod	 SoundTracker/NoiseTracker/ProTracker Module	
.mod
audio/it	 ImpulseTracker Module	
.it
audio/x-it	 ImpulseTracker Module	
.it
audio/x-stm	 ScreamTracker 2 Module	
.stm
audio/x-s3m	 ScreamTracker 3 Module	
.s3m
audio/s3m	 ScreamTracker 3 Module	
.s3m
application/playerpro	 669 Tracker Module	
.669
application/adrift	 ADRIFT Module File	
.amf
audio/med	 Amiga MED/OctaMED Tracker Module Sound File	
.med
audio/x-amf	 ADRIFT Module File	
.amf
audio/x-xm	 FastTracker II Audio	
.xm
audio/xm	 FastTracker II Audio	
.xm
video/mp2t	 MPEG2 transport stream	
.m2t
video/quicktime	 Quicktime animation	
.mov	.qt
video/x-quicktime	 Quicktime animation	
.mov	.qt
audio/x-m4a	 MPEG-4 audio	
.m4a	.m4b
application/x-quicktimeplayer	 Quicktime list	
.qtl
video/mp4	 MPEG-4 video	
.f4v	.mp4	.mpg4
audio/mp4	 MPEG-4 audio	
.f4a	.mp4	.mpg4
audio/x-pn-realaudio	 Real Media file	
.ra	.rm	.ram
audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin	 Real Media plugin file	
.rpm
audio/x-real-audio	 Real Media file	
.ra	.rm	.ram
application/vnd.rn-realmedia	 Real Media file	
.ra	.rm	.ram
video/mkv	 matroska	
.mkv
video/x-matroska	 matroska	
.mkv
video/webm	 WebM	
.wbm	.webm
video/msvideo	 AVI video	
.avi
video/x-msvideo	 AVI video	
.avi
video/x-ms-asf	 ASF stream	
.asf
video/x-ms-wmv	 Windows Media Video	
.wmv
audio/x-ms-wma	 Windows Media Audio	
.wma
application/vnd.ms-asf	 ASF stream	
.asf
application/x-mplayer2	 mplayer2	
.asf	.asx	.asp
video/x-ms-asf-plugin	 mms animation	
.asf	.asx	.asp
video/x-ms-wvx	 wmv metafile	
.wvx
video/x-ms-wax	 wma metafile	
.wva
video/x-flv	 Flash video	
.flv
video/flv	 Flash video	
.flv
application/x-flash-video	 Flash video	
.flv
audio/x-8svx	 IFF-8SVX Audio	
.8svx
audio/8svx	 IFF-8SVX Audio	
.8svx
audio/x-16sv	 IFF-16SV Audio	
.16sv
audio/168sv	 IFF-16SV Audio	
.16sv
image/x-ilbm	 IFF-ILBM Picture	
.ilbm
image/ilbm	 IFF-ILBM Picture	
.ilbm
video/x-anim	 IFF-ANIM Video	
.anim
video/anim	 IFF-ANIM Video	
.anim
video/x-flic	 Autodesk FLIC files	
.fli	.flc
image/png	 PNG image	
.png
image/x-png	 PNG image	
.png
video/mng	 MNG animation	
.mng
video/x-mng	 MNG animation	
.mng
video/mp2p	 MPEG2 program stream	
.m2p
application/ogg	 Ogg Stream	
.ogx
application/x-ogg	 Ogg Stream	
.ogx
application/x-ogm	 Ogg Stream	
.ogx
application/x-ogm-audio	 Ogg Audio	
.oga
application/x-ogm-video	 Ogg Video	
.ogv
audio/ogg	 Ogg Audio	
.oga
audio/x-ogg	 Ogg Audio	
.oga
video/ogg	 Ogg Video	
.ogv
video/x-ogg	 Ogg Video	
.ogv
video/mpeg	 MPEG animation	
.mpeg	.mpg	.mpe
video/x-mpeg	 MPEG animation	
.mpeg	.mpg	.mpe
audio/ac3	 Dolby Digital audio	
.ac3
audio/x-wav	 WAV audio	
.wav
audio/wav	 WAV audio	
.wav
audio/x-pn-wav	 WAV audio	
.wav
audio/x-pn-windows-acm	 WAV audio	
.wav
audio/musepack	 Musepack audio	
.mpc	.mp+	.mpp
audio/x-musepack	 Musepack audio	
.mpc	.mp+	.mpp
audio/x-flac	 FLAC Audio	
.flac
audio/flac	 FLAC Audio	
.flac
audio/mpeg2	 MPEG audio	
.mp2
audio/x-mpeg2	 MPEG audio	
.mp2
audio/mpeg3	 MPEG audio	
.mp3
audio/x-mpeg3	 MPEG audio	
.mp3
audio/mpeg	 MPEG audio	
.mpa	.abs	.mpega
audio/x-mpeg	 MPEG audio	
.mpa	.abs	.mpega
audio/x-mpegurl	 MPEG audio	
.mp3
audio/mpegurl	 MPEG audio	
.mp3
audio/mp3	 MPEG audio	
.mp3
audio/x-mp3	 MPEG audioaudio/x-scpls: pls: Winamp playlist	
.mp3
application/smil	 SMIL playlist	
.smi	.smil
application/xspf+xml	 XSPF playlist	
.xspf
application/x-xine-plugin	 Xine plugin	
.
Disable   Allow
Skype Buttons for Kopete
Mime Type x-skype for Skype Buttons
Name:	Skype Buttons for Kopete
Description:	Mime Type x-skype for Skype Buttons
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib64/browser-plugins/skypebuttons.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/x-skype	Skype Buttons	
.
Disable   Allow
QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.6
The Totem 2.32.0 plugin handles video and audio streams.
Name:	QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.6
Description:	The Totem 2.32.0 plugin handles video and audio streams.
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib64/browser-plugins/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
video/quicktime	QuickTime video	
.mov
video/mp4	MPEG-4 video	
.mp4
image/x-macpaint	MacPaint Bitmap image	
.pntg
image/x-quicktime	Macintosh Quickdraw/PICT drawing	
.pict	.pict1	.pict2
video/x-m4v	MPEG-4 video	
.m4v
Disable   Allow
VLC Multimedia Plugin (compatible Totem 2.32.0)
The Totem 2.32.0 plugin handles video and audio streams.
Name:	VLC Multimedia Plugin (compatible Totem 2.32.0)
Description:	The Totem 2.32.0 plugin handles video and audio streams.
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib64/browser-plugins/libtotem-cone-plugin.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/x-vlc-plugin	VLC Multimedia Plugin	
.
application/vlc	VLC Multimedia Plugin	
.
video/x-google-vlc-plugin	VLC Multimedia Plugin	
.
application/x-ogg	Ogg multimedia file	
.ogg
application/ogg	Ogg multimedia file	
.ogg
audio/ogg	Ogg Audio	
.oga
audio/x-ogg	Ogg Audio	
.ogg
video/ogg	Ogg Video	
.ogv
video/x-ogg	Ogg Video	
.ogg
application/annodex	Annodex exchange format	
.anx
audio/annodex	Annodex Audio	
.axa
video/annodex	Annodex Video	
.axv
video/mpeg	MPEG video	
.mpg	.mpeg	.mpe
audio/wav	WAV audio	
.wav
audio/x-wav	WAV audio	
.wav
audio/mpeg	MP3 audio	
.mp3
application/x-nsv-vp3-mp3	NullSoft video	
.nsv
video/flv	Flash video	
.flv
video/webm	WebM video	
.webm
application/x-totem-plugin	Totem Multimedia plugin	
.
audio/midi	MIDI audio	
.mid	.midi
Disable   Allow
Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)
The Totem 2.32.0 plugin handles video and audio streams.
Name:	Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)
Description:	The Totem 2.32.0 plugin handles video and audio streams.
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib64/browser-plugins/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/x-mplayer2	AVI video	
.avi	.wma	.wmv
video/x-ms-asf-plugin	ASF video	
.asf	.wmv
video/x-msvideo	AVI video	
.asf	.wmv
video/x-ms-asf	ASF video	
.asf
video/x-ms-wmv	Windows Media video	
.wmv
video/x-wmv	Windows Media video	
.wmv
video/x-ms-wvx	Windows Media video	
.wmv
video/x-ms-wm	Windows Media video	
.wmv
video/x-ms-wmp	Windows Media video	
.wmv
application/x-ms-wms	Windows Media video	
.wms
application/x-ms-wmp	Windows Media video	
.wmp
application/asx	Microsoft ASX playlist	
.asx
audio/x-ms-wma	Windows Media audio	
.wma
Disable   Allow
DivX® Web Player
DivX Web Player version 1.4.0.233
Name:	DivX® Web Player
Description:	DivX Web Player version 1.4.0.233
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib64/browser-plugins/libtotem-mully-plugin.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
video/divx	AVI video	
.divx
Disable   Allow
Parole media player plugin-in
Media player browser plugin for various media format version 0.2.0.2
Name:	Parole media player plugin-in
Description:	Media player browser plugin for various media format version 0.2.0.2
Version:	
Location:	/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/parole-player.so
Type:	NPAPI
 	 Disable
MIME types:	
MIME type	Description	File extensions
application/asx	Media Files	
.*
video/x-ms-asf-plugin	Media Files	
.*
video/x-msvideo	AVI	
.avi	.*
video/msvideo	AVI	
.avi	.*
application/x-mplayer2	Media Files	
.*
application/x-ms-wmv	Microsoft WMV video	
.wmv	.*
video/x-ms-asf	Media Files	
.asf	.asx	.*
video/x-ms-wm	Media Files	
.wm	.*
video/x-ms-wmv	Microsoft WMV video	
.wmv	.*
audio/x-ms-wmv	Windows Media	
.wmv	.*
video/x-ms-wmp	Windows Media	
.wmp	.*
application/x-ms-wmp	Windows Media	
.wmp	.*
video/x-ms-wvx	Windows Media	
.wvx	.*
audio/x-ms-wax	Windows Media	
.wax	.*
audio/x-ms-wma	Windows Media	
.wma	.*
application/x-drm-v2	Windows Media	
.asx	.*
audio/wav	Microsoft wave file	
.wav	.*
audio/x-wav	Microsoft wave file	
.wav	.*
audio/x-mpegurl	MPEG Playlist	
.m3u
video/mpeg	MPEG	
.mpg	.mpeg
audio/mpeg	MPEG	
.mpg	.mpeg
video/x-mpeg	MPEG	
.mpg	.mpeg
video/x-mpeg2	MPEG2	
.mpv2	.mp2ve
audio/mpeg	MPEG	
.mpg	.mpeg
audio/x-mpeg	MPEG	
.mpg	.mpeg
audio/mpeg2	MPEG audio	
.mp2
audio/x-mpeg2	MPEG audio	
.mp2
audio/mp4	MPEG 4 audio	
.mp4
audio/x-mp4	MPEG 4 audio	
.mp4
video/mp4	MPEG 4 Video	
.mp4
video/x-m4v	MPEG 4 Video	
.m4v
video/3gpp	MPEG 4 Video	
.mp4	.3gp
application/x-ogg	Ogg Vorbis Media	
.ogg
audio/flac	FLAC Lossless Audio	
.ogg
audio/x-flac	FLAC Lossless Audio	
.ogg
audio/ogg	Ogg Vorbis Audio	
.ogg
audio/ogg	Ogg Vorbis Audio	
.x-ogg
application/ogg	Ogg Vorbis / Ogg Theora	
.ogg
video/ogg	Ogg Vorbis Video	
.ogg
video/ogg	Ogg Vorbis Video	
.x-ogg
audio/x-pn-realaudio	RealAudio	
.ram	.rm
application/vnd.rn-realmedia	RealMedia	
.rm
application/vnd.rn-realaudio	RealAudio	
.ra	.ram
video/vnd.rn-realvideo	RealVideo	
.rv
audio/x-realaudio	RealAudio	
.ra
audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin	RealAudio	
.rpm
application/smil	SMIL	
.smil
video/divx	DivX Media Format	
.divx
video/vnd.divx	DivX Media Format	
.divx
video/quicktime	Quicktime	
.mov
video/x-quicktime	Quicktime	
.mov
image/x-quicktime	Quicktime	
.mov
video/quicktime	Quicktime	
.mp4
video/quicktime	Quicktime - Session Description Protocol	
.sdp
application/x-quicktimeplayer	Quicktime	
.mov
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cbjhawks · 02-23-2013, 07:49 PM

XP - At one time I used to know how to reinstall "just" windows (with effecting programs-updates installed) but after many years I cant remember how I did it before (OEM disk)...I will not do a fresh install (with all the thousands of updates - no way)...if you could help me with that I'd appreciate it...note..I have a dual-boot Linux-XP...when I choose XP, chkdsk runs (takes an hr) and with any luck I "might" be able to sign in successfully...but as soon as I shutdown and try a cold boot chkdsk wants to run again...Seems like Im caught in an endless loop...clicking from my 80gb hd (xp) can be heard on reboot or cold boot...the drive is as old as XP so probably failing ??

Linux-OpenSuSE 11.4 - if my mind is correct, my problems started when I upgraded FireFox via YAST...Im using FF ver 16.0.2-45.1 and Java 1.6.0.0_b24.1.11 Flash ver 11.2.202.243_23.1 What you said about phasing out older version of Flash (& Java versions) has crossed my mind several times. So when I upgraded I killed my Firefox ability to view video's (ie...YouTube)

Only choice I seemed to have is to stick with 11.4-Chrome for as long as I can...maybe its time for a MAC

Thanks again for your input-thoughts

rigor · 02-24-2013, 07:05 PM

Maybe some Windows expert can tell you how to reinstall just windows without doing it from scratch. About all I know of, are a few things with which I've had limited success:

1) If you have the right install media, there's sometimes a mode on the install media, with a name something like "repair", which can sometimes be used to fix the existing installation.

2) If, very early in the Windows boot procedure you press a special key, which I believe is usually the F8 key, you can access "safe" mode, and various other special modes. Some of these modes don't load various "higher level"/more-automatic windows facilities, and so keep things simple for trying to determine what's wrong with an existing installed system.

3) Running the msconfig utility from the startup menu, allows various degrees of selectivity about what's started when Windows boots. You can choose to run the system with most things disabled, while you're trying to figure out what's wrong.

4) When the system seems to be running properly, I manually create system restore points, from time to time, so I have a system state that I expect to be sane, to go back to, if I encounter problems later.

It does sound as if you may have some issue with your disk, or something related. If the system is shut down properly each time, you might want to run chkdsk yourself from a command prompt to see, in detail, what chkdsk's complaints are. Booting from the install media, and using the repair mode ( or whatever it's called ) can be helpful if you suspect your hard drive, since then you're not dependent on the hard drive to run the system you've booted. I've sometimes seen some strange problem with the swap/page file cause issues. When I deleted the file and recreated it, the problem was fixed. Since you don't want to re-install, even if your drive could be helped by a low-level format, naturally it's not likely to fix the problem, since after a low level format, you'd then usually need to re-install. But if you do have some bad blocks, too many to be replaced using the replacement table, if they are in a "good" spot, perhaps toward the end of a partition, you might be able to use a disk utility to "shrink" the live partition, to avoid the blocks.

But if possible, the first thing you might want to do is boot from the install media, run chkdsk on the hard drive, to see what the complaints are.

John VV · 02-24-2013, 11:04 PM

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Linux-OpenSuSE 11.4 - if my mind is correct, my problems started when I upgraded FireFox via YAST..

That would be the very last update before 11.4 went "End Of Life" on "November 5th 2012"
SEE: lifetime
http://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime

for the unsupported 11.4
see the firefox extentions for 11.4
http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Firefox_extension
http://software.opensuse.org/package...nding-openSUSE
you will have to click on the "show unsupported versions " for 11.4 to be shown

or use yast

but the state of the mirrors for 11.4 is anyone's guess

rigor · 02-26-2013, 04:04 AM

cbjhawks,

There's the fully "Official" Firefox from the openSUSE standard repositories, and then there's the Firefox from Mozilla's OBS ( openSUSE Build Service ) repository. The Mozilla OBS still appears to be viable ( a test is to see if you can refresh the repository content listing, which I can, and also to look at how recently things have been built ).

AFAIK, mainly the "Official" version gets you the openSUSE "branding". Also, at some point there is a bit of ( in my case ) KDE "integration". But you do have alternatives. The most recent Mozilla OBS build was Feb 19, 2013. That's for the "Standard" Firefox. There's also a "Standalone" Firefox known as Firefox-esr available through the OBS. Then too, I've had some luck just downloading direct from Mozilla and installing an unmodified Firefox.

As a last resort, if you are in a position to try a newer version of openSUSE, you could try upgrading. Unless the bugs from the earliest release of 12.1 have been fixed ( including some I reported during testing, but which I believe hadn't been fixed by the time of first release ), I'd stay away from openSUSE 12.1, but 12.2 is available. Or if you wait 15 days, 12.3 is supposed to be available. I'm not running 12.2 because I believe it defaults to GRUB-2, and I know my brain isn't fully GRUB-2 compatible yet. I've done a lot with GRUB-1/Legacy-GRUB, but not GRUB-2. I have a slew of OS's installed, so I'm in a situation where I need GRUB-2 to boot from an extended partition, which it can supposedly do, but it doesn't seem to want to do so, in my case. I'm not sure if dropping back to GRUB-1 is an option. But depending on your situation, you might try 12.2 or 12.3, if any of the newer Firefox versions which might work on openSUSE 11.4, don't fix your problem.

Hope this helps!

John VV · 02-26-2013, 01:29 PM

12.2 fixed the dolphin crash issues

I have had a lot less problems that with 12.1

but with 11.4 there will be problems installing programs , seeing as it is unsupported

but you can always download FF19 from mozilla
install it to a non std location
say --- /usr/opt/firefox
export the the path to "/usr/opt/firefox/firefox"
then uninstall the old ff from suse
( take EXTREME !!! care not to uninstall 1/2 of the operating system )

as of firefox 13 it auto installs the updates by default ( unless you turn that off )

rigor · 02-27-2013, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by John VV

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but with 11.4 there will be problems installing programs , seeing as it is unsupported

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Since 11.4 has reached end of life, is it expected that there will be no future updates provided by the openSUSE organization itself. That's not the same as saying that 11.4 has become broken or non-functional, nor that the community repositories on the OBS are not available.

YAST2 tells me that the required RPM's for Firefox 19 are available, as long as I allow various components to be taken from the OBS.