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Old 12-31-2005, 06:16 AM   #16
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whos this reply to?




if to me
home only store apps
/etc is all hardware, boots details basically everything before you can even load Kde/Gnome
No offence, I have NTFS partitions for my Movies and music, in total about 120 GB, i did not mention them because I thought it would be obvious.
Also I do not mean to copy my settings. I just noticed that this kinda setting speeds up realy, so I mentioned, and at same time the problem you had was solved. (I had this problem also)

And I do not understand what the boot partition has to do with the different Kernels, maybe I am to stupid for that.

/bin, and /lib can also be seperate partitions if you like.

If LVM is not used, partitions can be moved or resized without a problem..

I don't think you know what you are saying about the /home, but I don't mind....
Maybe it is best to assume you know it all..

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Old 12-31-2005, 07:58 AM   #17
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No offence, I have NTFS partitions for my Movies and music, in total about 120 GB, i did not mention them because I thought it would be obvious.
Also I do not mean to copy my settings. I just noticed that this kinda setting speeds up realy, so I mentioned, and at same time the problem you had was solved. (I had this problem also)

And I do not understand what the boot partition has to do with the different Kernels, maybe I am to stupid for that.

/bin, and /lib can also be seperate partitions if you like.

If LVM is not used, partitions can be moved or resized without a problem..

I don't think you know what you are saying about the /home, but I don't mind....
Maybe it is best to assume you know it all..
/boot stores all the images and maps for kernels
and grub settings for some bizare reason :S

but i probably should make a /boot partition of 20-30MB
to save me going through a recompiling kernels between Distros


with 4 unique kernels my /boot folder reaches 9.6MB

here is the default contents of my /boot 3.2MB

total 3116
1638 vmlinuz-2.6.12-12mdksmp 4 boot.0300
765 System.map-2.6.12-12mdksmp 4 us.klt
296 initrd-2.6.12-12mdksmp.img 4 message-text
244 message-graphic 0 kernel.h@
76 map 0 initrd.img@
64 config-2.6.12-12mdksmp 0 System.map@
12 .a.txt.swp 0 vmlinuz@
4 kernel.h-2.6.12-12mdksmp 0 config@
1 grub/ 0 message@
1 ./ 4 a.txt
1 ../



every new kernel added varies
1638 vmlinuz-2.6.12-12
765 System.map-2.6.12-12
296 initrd-2.6.12-12
is about 2+MB



mainly i'm just too lazy to fiddle around with multiple partitions for an OS,

i keep /home and /
it cuts down the random problems i used to have from programs crashing and not being told why.
and i have a varied computer usage habit.
1 day i need a big var to compile or install large ammounts of big software another i need a bigger /usr
i gave up readjusting/shuffling the space now they just share it.

cons of my way,
minor fragmentation, i havent noticed a speed increase either way though.
 
Old 12-31-2005, 08:35 AM   #18
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That is the reason to have a seperate /bootdisk, you can make changes without effecting the complete system, or systems..

And,Yes I can imagine and maybe understand that if you use a dual CPU, like you do, the speed would not increase dramaticaly....
I only have one: Athlon 2800+ (1804MHz), but it is such a difference, that I was glad I did it that way.
I did not know this would happen, the moment I did it that way.
I noticed that with compiling, time it took, got longer and longer, and I didn't find a good defragmenter, still not found one.
Also I understood that search time is longer if everything is saved, 'just where is room' at the moment.
I did not like the idea, of static and dynamic libraries mixed up. I know that nothing bad happenes, when I clean my temp.
The idea of a good separation looked just fine to me. and I am glad I did this.

Offcourse it is up to everybody how to use his/her system or HDD, and I would be the last one who would ever want to change this. Only this way real improvements can be made, by ideas, passed and tested, to get to nicer and better computing....
 
Old 12-31-2005, 09:17 AM   #19
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That is the reason to have a seperate /bootdisk, you can make changes without effecting the complete system, or systems..

And,Yes I can imagine and maybe understand that if you use a dual CPU, like you do, the speed would not increase dramaticaly....
I only have one: Athlon 2800+ (1804MHz), but it is such a difference, that I was glad I did it that way.
I did not know this would happen, the moment I did it that way.
I noticed that with compiling, time it took, got longer and longer, and I didn't find a good defragmenter, still not found one.
Also I understood that search time is longer if everything is saved, 'just where is room' at the moment.
I did not like the idea, of static and dynamic libraries mixed up. I know that nothing bad happenes, when I clean my temp.
The idea of a good separation looked just fine to me. and I am glad I did this.

Offcourse it is up to everybody how to use his/her system or HDD, and I would be the last one who would ever want to change this. Only this way real improvements can be made, by ideas, passed and tested, to get to nicer and better computing....

i actually used divided partitions on my athlon XP 1700+ and didnt notice much of a difference.
but it was mandrake and no matter what i do it seems to run the same.

i only got this 2-3 weeks ago when the 1700+ fried.

may its ashes rest in piece.
and the stuffed shell be my keyring
 
Old 12-31-2005, 09:22 AM   #20
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i actually used divided partitions on my athlon XP 1700+ and didnt notice much of a difference.
but it was mandrake and no matter what i do it seems to run the same.

i only got this 2-3 weeks ago when the 1700+ fried.

may its ashes rest in piece.
and the stuffed shell be my keyring
My condoleances...... Embedded AMD?

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Old 12-31-2005, 09:38 AM   #21
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My condoleances...... Embedded AMD?
Embedded?
no it was an AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred 1700+ on a K7S5A socket A motherboard.

god i really miss that board already.


lets just say when i have a little money to allow me to replace a broken part i push my parts a bit.

the Athy didnt like it when i changed the multiplier from 11 to 15 =11x133=1.46(1700+) 15x133=1.9(2500+)
ooops my bad

it ran for 8 hours but once i shutdown, it never booted up again. upon removing heatsink the entire core and surrounding was black.


:P
 
Old 12-31-2005, 10:29 AM   #22
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No I mean after you fried it, it was embedded!
Sorry, sick joke....

Yep, you realy fried it allright!
It is too late now but I wounder: Why did you changed so many at a time?

It can be done, but you need a much better cooling, vent straight on the heatsink with a tube from outside the box, or watercooling....

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Old 12-31-2005, 12:11 PM   #23
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No I mean after you fried it, it was embedded!
Sorry, sick joke....

Yep, you realy fried it allright!
It is too late now but I wounder: Why did you changed so many at a time?

It can be done, but you need a much better cooling, vent straight on the heatsink with a tube from outside the box, or watercooling....

reason 1
the slowness of the 1700+ in Battlefield 2 was intolerable even oc @ 1.67.

2 i was lucky enough to have a thoroughbred B core (designed for upto 2600+

3 if i couldnt oc it to something close to equivelent of an upgrade i would upgrade any way

4 definetly the silliest of reasons
15 had the fewest connections with microscopic wiring
 
Old 12-31-2005, 01:13 PM   #24
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reason 1
the slowness of the 1700+ in Battlefield 2 was intolerable even oc @ 1.67.

2 i was lucky enough to have a thoroughbred B core (designed for upto 2600+

3 if i couldnt oc it to something close to equivelent of an upgrade i would upgrade any way

4 definetly the silliest of reasons
15 had the fewest connections with microscopic wiring
The choice was justified, i guess, just not realized that the 'cold turkey' would kill it.

Also the bus speed onboard was to low, on the Asus K8V-X I am using it is to low also: 2x200MHz, instead of 2x400. It can be adjusted by a Gig of RAM, that takes the heat off the busses.(I don't know how they call 'bus' in english) But it is not the most elegant solution...

And this 'Dual'? Is it allright? You like it?

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Old 12-31-2005, 08:30 PM   #25
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The choice was justified, i guess, just not realized that the 'cold turkey' would kill it.

Also the bus speed onboard was to low, on the Asus K8V-X I am using it is to low also: 2x200MHz, instead of 2x400. It can be adjusted by a Gig of RAM, that takes the heat off the busses.(I don't know how they call 'bus' in english) But it is not the most elegant solution...

And this 'Dual'? Is it allright? You like it?
the K7S5A only supports 133fsb
but despite that ran much quicker than my two faster model boards i had (333fsb and 400 backsidebus)


ps i only did 14.5 but the math for 15x was easier off my head:P
 
  


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