What is the situation with Suse 10.1???
They took YAST which ok, it wasnt perfect it but it worked pretty well and they have smashed it into a billion pieces with the "zen system" this sytem is anything but "zen" the only "zen" thing about "zen" is when i go to my bed and stop thinking about it.
What are the Suse developers up to? They have made a brilliant distro and deestroyed a great package managment system, and wheres the adavntage of it all anyway? Even when zen does work? How is it any better??? It offers less options, theres no categorys it just one huge list, one sentence - BRING BACK SUSE WATCHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suse watcher was a great little program, it sat there caused no trouble and reported every little update you needed it was BRILLIANT, the zen package managment system is one of the worst package managment system I have ever seen in my life, it doesnt work and even when it does its rubbish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOVEL, IF YOU CAN HEAR THIS, SWITCH BACK TO THE SYSTEM IS SUSE 10 - IT HAD PROBLEMS - BUT THIS PACKAGE MANAGMNET SYTEM YOU HAVE GIVEN US IS LIKE LIVING IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eh, Zen is new.. give it a shot.. I actually think it isn't too bad.. Have you tried RUG command line? It's fairly fast and it's good IMO..

A few more updates, and it'll be awesome.

I guess to be honest I just cant see what novel are trying to do with this, I mean YAST worked great before, and they are trying to push something into it that just doesnt work, I cant even see the advantage in what they are doing, what can zen do that yast doesnt? appart from crash constantly and give up every error under the sun.

In a way its fine if they want to try something new, what they should have done though was develop it as a parallel and option system untill they knew it worked properly, smart is a perfect example of this, its there if people want it but it isnt pushed down people throats, and from what ive seen of smart it works better than zen anyway, i have uninstalled zen completly now but when i use yast it still throws up errors that relate to zen, i tried to install suse watcher but it is no longer supplied, i guess what novel has done goes back to the old saying - if it aint broke dont fix it, zen is a disaster, they need to either ditch it and switch back to yast and suse watcher or develop something new around smart, when i read the ammount of posts of people complaining about zen it is amazing, it has caused a lot of people a lot of stress.

First off, since it isn't running off of YaST, it is not required to use YaST sources, so you can pick your update sournces, it supports multiple update types (incl. Yum).

So what type of "crashes" are you getting with ZMD? It works fine for me.. except sometimes in YaST it can't sync sources.