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Old 11-26-2008, 03:11 AM   #1
Sjonnie48
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WARNING: hplip on open suse11.0 64-bit causes irreparable damage!


After trying to get a HP PSC4280 to work on a os11.0 64-bit system, I found hplip.
I started installing it, but halfway the install of a package failed.
The install had to be aborted, and then the misery really started.
The system would not shutdown anymore and a reset/reboot did not succeed.
The system is irreparably damaged and it has to be reinstalled completely from scratch.
So if you were planning to install hplip on a 64-bit system you better don't.
 
Old 11-26-2008, 01:24 PM   #2
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After trying to get a HP PSC4280 to work on a os11.0 64-bit system, I found hplip.
What prompted you to beleive that you needed hplip?
Where did you get the package: OpenSuse repository or somewhere else?
What kind of package is it: rpm or source tarball?
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I started installing it, but halfway the install of a package failed.
What error messages did you get when the installation failed?
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The system would not shutdown anymore and a reset/reboot did not succeed.
Did you try to shutdown from the command line?
What error message(s) did you get when the system failed to reboot?
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The system is irreparably damaged and it has to be reinstalled completely from scratch.
Maybe yes; maybe no.
Did you boot a live cd, then mount the OpenSuse partition and inspect the files in /var/log, especially the boot.log and messages files?

I have 64 bit OpenSuse 10.3 running with hplip installed from installation DVD, printing with an old (very old) HP Deskjet 882C and have no problems. Given the sparse information you've provided, I'd suspect the package you are trying to install as being the source of the problem. As far as the need to reinstall is concerned, I have no idea what your level of experience with Linux is, nor do I know what error messages you've received, but I do know that in my less experienced days in Linux, I frequently re-installed (a la Windows user mindset) when re-installation was not necessary had I but known a bit more about GNU/Linux operating systems.

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Old 11-27-2008, 07:09 AM   #3
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I tried to get my first HP printer working. Well, see what happened.

1.

I installed the 64-bit version of OpenSuse11.0 (OS11.0 from here on) with the new HP printer connected and switched on.
After the installation I tested the printer but it did not respond, so I tried to configure it with Yast. After trying this I wanted to print a test page, resulting in a printer that kept spitting out empty pages until there was no more paper.

2.

Then I landed on HP's website and I searched for Linux drivers, and I found Hplip. Before the installation of Hplip actually started it selected a large amount of packages to fulfill dependencies.
The installation of one of these packages failed and then the system kept hanging. I could not get out of the installation procedure anymore so I had to push the reset-button.
But after the reboot the system could not start up, and I saw endless columns with /bin/sh passing by on the monitor.
I thought that there was a conflict between Hplip and the 64-bit system, so I started to Google with “hplip 64-bit Suse” and I found a number of links that matched my demand.
A majortiy of these links unvealed the same kind of misery as mine so I decided that my intuition had been right.
Meanwhile it appeared impossible to repair the system with the OS11.0 dvd, and I concluded that it had to be re-installed.


3.

This was my first HP printer, and I knew nothing of the availability of Hplip with OpenSuse11.0.
Yast was absolutely unhelpful with installing this printer, otherwise it should have selected the Hplip package for installation.

This illustrates the biggest contra of Linux, still a lack of user-friendliness. My experience with OS11.0 was a fine example of this shortcoming.

With OS11.0 you connect a printer, install something that should contain the drivers and then one must yet configure Kerberos to get the rights to make the f...... thing finally printing with the help of Cups.
What a complications for printing on a simple standalone computer.

With Windows you connect a printer, install the drivers and there you go, printing! Such should become common practice with Linux too!
 
Old 11-27-2008, 08:08 AM   #4
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I am using hplip on a hp fx4100 all in one and have no problems. When installing I did have to stop and install cups first.
 
Old 11-27-2008, 09:59 AM   #5
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My guess is that if linux was as popular as windows and had the financial support as does windows the cds might come with linux drivers on them. Where would low cost or free go. As the linux communitie goes I think they are doing great with the improvements they have made in the past five years.
 
  


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