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Old 04-23-2013, 05:10 PM   #1
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Upgrading Live USB Linux to DVD Installation


Hello,

I just installed a Live USB System of OpenSuse on a Laptop. Is it possible to "upgrade" the system to a system as it would be installed from a OpenSuse installation DVD?
I am missing such important options as changing the language in KDE for example and would prefer to have a "complete" installation anyway.
Is that possible or is there a list where the difference is written down, so the programms can be simply installed?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:31 PM   #2
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We need more info. "installed a Live USB System of OpenSuse". Is this a unetbootin deal or such? Is this a dd of a usb image to usb or even hard drive?


The rest refers to a normal install be in hard drive or usb. To modern linux they are the same thing.

System language is usually an install or can be changed later option. Not usually tied to KDE as such. It is a global effect.

Opensuse uses software management they call either Yast or Apper. Yast can be run from text or command line as well as a gui app. Running Yast is the way to show most of what is installed, available to be installed and if you configure it you can add in out of standard Opensuse apps.


Usually with the larger distro's like Opensuse, you can add in what ever is on the dvd and more. Even the most basic of boot cd's or even floppies can give you the same software as the dvd. You can even boot to a cd of network install and use a local or remote dvd to install.
 
Old 04-24-2013, 12:55 AM   #3
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It should be an image of the Live KDE version you can install under http://software.opensuse.org/123/en

I cant help but to find some strange behaviour compared to my OpenSuse installation. For example there is a NetworkManager present in the task bar but does not recognize any hardware. Nevertheless I am connected via cable and that seems to work.
The console language is the one I have chosen in the installation but KDE is still English as well as the folders in the home directory (well at least I assume there is no problem in changing the names ).

My plan was to download a DVD image of the install this evening, burn it on a DVD an then reinstall with that DVD as this seems far easier for me than reconfiguring the system...

Thanks
 
Old 04-27-2013, 02:06 AM   #4
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Am NON-Technical using openSUSE 12.3 GNOME...


Which version of openSUSE do you have installed, is it with kde3 or kde4 ?


Open terminal
Log in as root



Expect doing zypper se -i kde shows what installed.



Which languages available, with those installed in the left S column marked with i ?


Code:
linux-bnn6:~ # zypper se bundle-lang-kde   
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

S | Name               | Summary                                      | Type   
--+--------------------+----------------------------------------------+--------
  | bundle-lang-kde-ar | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-ca | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-cs | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-da | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-de | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-en | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-es | Translations for a group of KDE programs     | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-fi | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-fr | Translations for a group of KDE programs     | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-hu | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-it | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-ja | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-ko | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-nb | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-nl | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-pl | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-pt | Translations for a group of KDE programs     | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-ru | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-sv | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
  | bundle-lang-kde-zh | Translations for a group of KDE applications | package
linux-bnn6:~ #


Example to install French translations use command zypper in bundle-lang-kde-fr






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Old 04-27-2013, 02:26 AM   #5
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BTW am NON-Technical user...


Best option is your plan to download the full package size 4.7 GB then burn the DVD image and reinstall.

Certainly provides most choices during installation, Live package fewer choices.



Found best each time upgrade versions to do as clean install, create new root / and /home partitions.

When appears finished do another restart and check no more updates required.

After restart and check again finds no updates required, only then copy across documents from old /home partition into new /home partitions.


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Old 05-01-2013, 07:16 AM   #6
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Hey folks,

so I reinstalled OpenSUSE from a DVD and have some questions...

First thing I realized as I am having some trouble to activate the WiFi was, that every time I use for example ifconfig I get
the error message:

"Absolute path to 'ifconfig' is '/sbin/ifconfig', so running it may require superuser privileges"

On my own machine this is not an issue and its more annoying than it helps to remember a user should not manipulate with the system...can I do something about that? (its not just about ifconfig, but its a prominent example)


Then the major issue:

Networking using a wire works just fine, the NetworkManager of KDE does manage that flawlessly. I can config IP, Gateway and so on. Using WiFi does not work. I tried to figure out, what the problem could be and have found a thread in a german Ubuntu forum.
There seems to be a problem with the rfkill.

Code:
ifconfig wlan0 up
gives
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill

Code:
rfkill unblock all
rfkill list
gives
0: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: yes
Hard blockes: yes
1: hp bluetooth: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: yes
Hard blockes: yes
0: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blockes: yes

I tried to use the fn+F12 combination but it does not seem to have any effect on the hardware switch.
Any ideas for this?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:14 AM   #7
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Am NON-Technical, find opensuse usually just works,


Am using the Gnome desktop, which connects through local router.

YaST - Network Setting shows am using "Traditional Method with ifup" not the user controlled with NetworkManager.

NetworkManager may better suit laptops mobile so changing their internet connections frequently, while ifup suited local network machines.


Some in opensuse.org forum found similar problem without re-boot, saying just doing the re-boot of openSUSE 12.3 their network connections worked.
 
Old 05-02-2013, 12:40 PM   #8
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On my own machine everything it was just install and use as well, on this one its not...
Rebooting the machine unfortunately does not help. This seems to be a permanent problem.

I switched the special keys feature in the BIOS to enabled and the OS suddenly reacts on fn+special keys...it does change the volume at least. The network manager does something, but I can still not turn on the WiFi properly. It still ist blocked by rf-kill...

Any ideas?

Thanks!
 
Old 05-15-2013, 01:22 AM   #9
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Apologies for delay...



"Absolute path to 'ifconfig' is '/sbin/ifconfig', so running it may require superuser privileges"

Seems normal
as users must use '/sbin/ifconfig'
as root 'ifconfig' works fine.



Unknown for KDE, 12.3 with Gnome desktop is without rfkill installed, not required when switched between ... ifup and other network services.



Have provided others OpenSUSE LiveDVD to test and try on their computers, advise against installing.

Those who want openSUSE then used my full openSUSE installation DVD for their installation.


That with clean partition install found best way to avoid problems.

For every upgrade do clean install into clean partitions.

Also use the processor setting to reset to default settings

Result has been problems avoided :-)


Either copy my few users NOT-Hidden content from their old Documents folder into their new Documents folder, or help them learn how to do it themselves.
 
  


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