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Old 02-23-2005, 12:24 PM   #1
NanoJock
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Unhappy Updating Software (Yast vs. Apt)


Hi all!,
I am a Suse newbie (although I have used linux for about 3 years). So far I have been using Yast to install packages but now I can't figure out how to update to newer versions. I added Packman to the Yast source list and installed some stuff from there. I just added Guru to the source list and I know that there are updated packages but I can't get Yast to see that. How do you update packages that you have already installed via "Install and Remove Software".
I have used apt-get a lot in the past (Fedora and Debian) and I am wondering if I should just forget using Yast and use apt instead. Fedora has this war going on between repositories (Fedora Extras/Livna.org and FreshRPMS/DAG/ATrpms) that has really turned me off there. But if Yast isn't going to handle updates very well I am comfortable using synaptic. Any suggestions?

-NanoJock

BTW How do you tell which sections of ftp.gwdg.de are OK (stable) to use and which are not (i.e. Kernel-of-the-Day). The directions say to be careful but don't tell you how to tell.
 
Old 02-23-2005, 12:29 PM   #2
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SusE has to approve them, I'd like to get firefox 1.0, but they haven't added that to their yast-sources(9.1) yet. They are a little slow in my opinion about getting new versions approved for yast upgrades
 
Old 02-23-2005, 01:04 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply musicman_ace. How about with Packman and Guru?

-NanoJock
 
Old 02-23-2005, 05:57 PM   #4
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Personally, I use Apt (w/Synaptic) for any updates outside of the major package sections like KDE or Gnome. I do this because I like to have access to a lot of the third party packages and you just can't do that with YaST to the same extent that you can with Apt. So, basically I use SuSE's supplemental update mirrors to notch up on desktop environment versions, and then use Apt for whatever else I desire to include.

However, this is NOT a recommendation as third party packages can and do break base systems. I've done it myself on several occasions. I would only advise that similar actions to mine be taken by people that do not mind fixing things that used to work properly (that's the best way I can phrase it I think). You will be doing this.

That said, here is my current sources.list from /etc/apt/.
It hasn't demolished anything recently.

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# Uncomment the line below, in case you want to use SuSE's patch rpms.
# Read the information about patch rpms at http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm

# rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.2-i386 update-prpm security-prpm

# A very basic sources.list line. Fastest repository first.
# Remove "base" in case you are behind a
# slow connection. Fastest repository first.
# Visit the server to determine which apt components are provided.


rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt SuSE/9.2-i386 update suser-guru suser-scorot packman packman-i686 rpmkeys base misc kde suser-rbos suser-tcousin suser-ollakka funktronics security

#rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt SuSE/9.2-i386 base update security

# The list with all available components can be found at:
# http://linix01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm
# Some components provide experimental software, select wisely!
# http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ap...urces.list.FTP

# Consult the link above if you want to include uri's for src rpms

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Old 02-23-2005, 06:25 PM   #5
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Oh, almost forgot. This is the best place to learn about Apt on SuSE:
The Advance Package Tool For SuSE
 
  


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