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Old 12-14-2004, 10:17 PM   #1
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Question SuSE 9.1: partial sound loss after upgrade to KDE 3.3.2


Well, after spending alot of time tinkering after my last KDE update (actually managed to repair everything that broke ), I decided to upgrade to KDE3.3.2.

Guess what?... Something broke.

The current problem is that, although I have sound with video and audio applications, I have no sound within KDE itself (no notifications, startup, logging...nada). This is something I cannot accept, as I have grown quite accustomed to KDE's sounds. They comfort me.

Has anyone else had a similar problem? I am completely perplexed by this particular problem, and any suggestions on how to fix would be greatly appreciated.
 
Old 12-15-2004, 12:08 AM   #2
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As I have the same problem - yet unresolved I might add.

Apparently, for some people - logging out of KDE. renaming (or deleting)
your ~/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc file and then logging back into KDE works.

As for others, they just renamed thier entire ~/.kde directory and then
copied back some of thier KDE settings.
(not sure if that just does the same thing as deleting knotifyrc or
if there is something else that needs to changed for them)

Wish I was so lucky
-tw
 
Old 12-15-2004, 02:01 AM   #3
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I'll give those two options a try myself and report back on the results.

EDIT: Just tried both options, no change. Looks like my luck's not any better than your's.

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Old 12-15-2004, 06:02 AM   #4
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Hear is the output from a cat I ran on the arts daemon, at least part with the error. Any ideas?

ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:563snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: Broken pipe
ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:563snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: Broken pipe
can't register Arts::MidiManager
There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active...
ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:563snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: Broken pipe

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Old 12-15-2004, 02:47 PM   #5
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Kde 3.3.2 and sound

Update your alsa, alsa-devel and alsa-tools from the packman site or from apt and the problem goes away....or go into kde control center and select OSS as your sound server instead of "auto detect"
 
Old 12-15-2004, 04:03 PM   #6
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No go on that idea either. I already tried the update from packman's site, as well as trying the mods to the sound system.

Any other suggestions?
 
Old 12-17-2004, 09:29 AM   #7
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Arts was the problem. Problem solved.

For tw001_tw, and anyone who was experiencing the same sound problem as myself, downgrade to the arts package from version 3.3.1 of KDE. There seems to be a problem with the way arts was chatting with alsa. After changing from the arts-1.3.1 that's packaged with 3.3.2 to the arts-1.3.1 from 3.3.1, full audio is restored.

--a little experimenting never hurt anyone--
 
Old 12-20-2004, 08:42 PM   #8
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For tw001_tw, and anyone who was experiencing the same sound problem as myself, downgrade to the arts package from version 3.3.1 of KDE. There seems to be a problem with the way arts was chatting with alsa. After changing from the arts-1.3.1 that's packaged with 3.3.2 to the arts-1.3.1 from 3.3.1, full audio is restored.
Any suggestion where to find the 3.3.1 version of arts-1.3.1? The only thing I see on the ftp site is the arts-1.3.2 dated 12/10 -- i.e. part of the 3.3.2 release.
 
Old 12-20-2004, 11:34 PM   #9
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The KDE mirrors have 3.3.1 for SuSE. Just have a look through one of the ftp servers, and you should find arts-1.3.1. It should solve the problem, but I can't promise anything.(worked on my sys, though)

--darkmatter--
 
Old 12-21-2004, 10:54 AM   #10
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Ah! Didn't think to check the KDE mirrors.

Thanks, I'll give that a shot tonight. Hope they have packages for SuSE 9.2!
 
Old 12-21-2004, 08:30 PM   #11
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I hate replying to my own posts...

Quote:
Hope they have packages for SuSE 9.2!
Answer: Nope. But I decided to be brave, and grabbed the packages for 9.1:

For anyone else running 9.2 who wants to try the fix, here's what I did:

Code:
1) Download the following packages from the KDE ftp server:
     arts-1.3.1-3.i586.rpm 
     arts-devel-1.3.1-3.i586.rpm 
     arts-gmcop-1.3.1-3.i586.rpm
2) Log out of the current session.  Leave the X session running, sitting at the login page.
3) Hit Alt-F2 and login as root.
4) Change to the directory where the rpms are sitting and install them with rpm -Uvh --force arts*.rpm
5) Restarted alsa with /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
6) Log out of the root account, hit Alt-F7 to return to the X login and log in as usual.
S.
 
Old 12-23-2004, 12:01 PM   #12
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partial sounds, will this break other programs.

Im running suse 9.2 with kde3.3.2 and except for system sounds all is well. I tried to go back to the older pagekage
but it says that i have to uninstall a lot of kde programs that depend on the new kde arts. So if i do what you say will
break my programs? like rythmbox or anything that may have been installed while running the 3.3.2 stuff.
 
Old 12-23-2004, 12:36 PM   #13
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Joey, if you follow the steps I gave above, I don't think it'll break anything. Obviously, YMMV and all that, but I haven't had any problems, nor have I had to reinstall anything.
 
Old 12-24-2004, 01:27 PM   #14
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Still not working

Hi I did what you said but still no system sounds. i did however notice that after running the restart command that the last line said:

TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode
Opening sequencer port: 128:0 128:1 128:2 128:3

but it just sit there and didnt do anything so i had to do a Ctrl C to get the prompt again to log out.

Last edited by joeyindy; 12-24-2004 at 02:03 PM.
 
Old 12-24-2004, 03:51 PM   #15
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Odd indeed.

Unfortunately, I don't know anything about timidity, so I can't give you any direct help there. You might try restarting the computer, just to be sure that everything is actually starting cleanly.

Or if you would rather not do that, try (as root)
Code:
/etc/init.d/alsasound stop
wait a few seconds, and then do
Code:
/etc/init.d/alsasound start
. If you get the same hang after timidity runs, I'd suggest reinstalling timidity -- perhaps it's looking for something specific in the version of alsa you had installed when you installed timidity.

Sorry I can't be of more help than that.

S.
 
  


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