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SolarisZen 12-14-2009 10:44 PM

keeping OpenSuSe 10.2 alive
 
Needless to state I have tried both 11.1/2 and I was very disappointed in it. Not even getting through the install wizard it would freeze during the first part of the package install or to the formating of the HD.

So I reverted back to SuSE 10.2 as it has served me very well and will probably continue to do so as it best supports my hard ware. So the question is and those like me seeking an answer where now do we get the repos for 10.2 as it is officially been discontinued?

AleLinuxBSD 12-15-2009 02:26 AM

I don't think is possible and for sure isn't a safe way mantain an OS don't supported.
Repositories/10.2
They speak only about space considerations but the real problem is that is very energy expensive mantain many repository using few resources.
You could wait 1-2 months and retry to install opensuse 11.2 or try to install opensuse 11.1 if you have problem with the last.

SolarisZen 12-15-2009 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AleLinuxBSD (Post 3791945)
I don't think is possible and for sure isn't a safe way mantain an OS don't supported.
Repositories/10.2
They speak only about space considerations but the real problem is that is very energy expensive mantain many repository using few resources.
You could wait 1-2 months and retry to install opensuse 11.2 or try to install opensuse 11.1 if you have problem with the last.

The kernel hang up seems to affect the 11.x series so I'll just pass until
12 comes along and is truly an improvement. Shame really.

stoggy 12-16-2009 01:46 PM

I just started using suse again. Mostly i use fedora, rhel and slackware.

But can't you hit ctrl+alt+f{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9} in the install to get more info on what it is doing?

why don't you switch terminals and see what is causing the lockups.


You could maintain it yourself but it will be a lot of work.

thorkelljarl 12-16-2009 06:12 PM

By chance...

Assuming that you are using the openSUSE 11.2 DVD, have you tried to install a desktop other than KDE and Gnome? Also, you might work backwards, trying 11.2, then 11.1, 11.0 and 10.3, the oldest openSUSE still available, until you find one that might install.

SolarisZen 12-16-2009 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thorkelljarl (Post 3794442)
By chance...

Assuming that you are using the openSUSE 11.2 DVD, have you tried to install a desktop other than KDE and Gnome? Also, you might work backwards, trying 11.2, then 11.1, 11.0 and 10.3, the oldest openSUSE still available, until you find one that might install.


Ya i was using the dvd and installing both gnome & kde. 10.3, thats a good idea. wonder where it is?

thorkelljarl 12-17-2009 09:52 AM

The work has been done...

The link on the last post here has torrent links that are still active. Mind the naked women.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...e-10.3-772684/

SolarisZen 12-17-2009 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thorkelljarl (Post 3795502)
The work has been done...

The link on the last post here has torrent links that are still active. Mind the naked women.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...e-10.3-772684/

lol naked women. ah the joys of the net. Thank you for your help and input its been great :)

thorkelljarl 12-17-2009 02:45 PM

Not quite...

You can download the DVD for openSUSE 10.3 but there doesn't seem to be any repositories available for 10.3 . What about trying one of the ellevens with a light desktop? It is possible to use cheatcodes(F3, etc.) during the installation to overcome some problems, but the later openSUSE kernels may no longer have the modules for your hardware.

You might try a KNOPPIX 6.2 or 5.1.1 live-cd to see if you can get one to boot, then use the command "lsmod" to see the modules that KNOPPIX loads, and go on from there to find some distro other than openSUSE that should boot.

sadiqdm 12-18-2009 05:40 AM

I've been using openSuse for nearly 10 years, and tried Slackware, Fedora & Ubuntu in various forms, with Gnome & KDE. In the end I have always gone back to Suse, and that has been my main distro since 10.0. Once you get the hang of using YaST for config, and have KDE the way you like to work, I find Suse needs less work at the command line than others. I want to use my computers for doing real work, so the less fiddling the better.

The RC versions of openSuse 11.2 had enough problems that I only tried them in Live CD, and KDE 4 did not seem usable till 4.3, so apart from having an occasional look I stayed away from it. However, I've had 11.2 KDE 4.3 as a 3rd boot running on my laptop and main desktop since a couple of days after the full release. The laptop had some problems getting the wifi to work, but fixing that was easy once I installed the GUI for ndiswrapper. The desktop is a Dell Precision with dual core Xeon 64bit, and that worked straight away. I'm currently playing with some of the desktop settings, but I intend to do a full upgrade on both systems in the New Year.

Of particular interest to this thread, I do tech support for a community group for which I have recycle two Dell Optiplex GX260's The problem with these boxes, is they have a low form factor which means you can't upgrade the graphics card easily, and the BIOS can be really cranky. I first tried a couple of flavours of Ubuntu, but after some experimenting, I changed to openSuse 10.1 using the text based install. Everything worked straight off on both boxes apart from the one which had a wireless card. This needed some work to get the right driver for the RealTek chipset, but now that I have done that once it won't be a problem again. In fact that one box has now been upgraded through 10.3 to 11.1, and the other was upgraded to 11.2 and is working fine. If anything 11.2 seems to be faster on this older hardware (2.4Ghz P4, integral graphics and NIC) than 11.1, certainly the install was easier.

I think KDE 4.3 is now usable and looks very good, though I will stick with 3.5.10 for at least a couple of months, until I have got to grips with customizing Dolphin.

I would recommend anyone thinking of changing to Suse 11.2, to not give up if it doesn't work at the first try. Some things that don't work or work badly on the Live CD work fine after a full install. If the graphic install hangs up, it is usually because of the graphics card or monitor not supporting the drivers in the installer properly. Try the generic VESA driver or the text base install instead. Always do the install with a wired network connection first so you don't get hung up with the wireless not working. Some BIOS also don't support USB keyboards and mice well during the install so try PS2 versions first.

SolarisZen 12-22-2009 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sadiqdm (Post 3796549)
I've been using openSuse for nearly 10 years, and tried Slackware, Fedora & Ubuntu in various forms, with Gnome & KDE. In the end I have always gone back to Suse, and that has been my main distro since 10.0. Once you get the hang of using YaST for config, and have KDE the way you like to work, I find Suse needs less work at the command line than others. I want to use my computers for doing real work, so the less fiddling the better.

The RC versions of openSuse 11.2 had enough problems that I only tried them in Live CD, and KDE 4 did not seem usable till 4.3, so apart from having an occasional look I stayed away from it. However, I've had 11.2 KDE 4.3 as a 3rd boot running on my laptop and main desktop since a couple of days after the full release. The laptop had some problems getting the wifi to work, but fixing that was easy once I installed the GUI for ndiswrapper. The desktop is a Dell Precision with dual core Xeon 64bit, and that worked straight away. I'm currently playing with some of the desktop settings, but I intend to do a full upgrade on both systems in the New Year.

Of particular interest to this thread, I do tech support for a community group for which I have recycle two Dell Optiplex GX260's The problem with these boxes, is they have a low form factor which means you can't upgrade the graphics card easily, and the BIOS can be really cranky. I first tried a couple of flavours of Ubuntu, but after some experimenting, I changed to openSuse 10.1 using the text based install. Everything worked straight off on both boxes apart from the one which had a wireless card. This needed some work to get the right driver for the RealTek chipset, but now that I have done that once it won't be a problem again. In fact that one box has now been upgraded through 10.3 to 11.1, and the other was upgraded to 11.2 and is working fine. If anything 11.2 seems to be faster on this older hardware (2.4Ghz P4, integral graphics and NIC) than 11.1, certainly the install was easier.

I think KDE 4.3 is now usable and looks very good, though I will stick with 3.5.10 for at least a couple of months, until I have got to grips with customizing Dolphin.

I would recommend anyone thinking of changing to Suse 11.2, to not give up if it doesn't work at the first try. Some things that don't work or work badly on the Live CD work fine after a full install. If the graphic install hangs up, it is usually because of the graphics card or monitor not supporting the drivers in the installer properly. Try the generic VESA driver or the text base install instead. Always do the install with a wired network connection first so you don't get hung up with the wireless not working. Some BIOS also don't support USB keyboards and mice well during the install so try PS2 versions first.

So 10.2 works right out of the install, I tried the live Suse 11/11.1/11.2 and all the live cds work. Here comes the difficult part. Even with the basic install all 11x freezes during a fresh install. It gets stuck when it "deploys image" after the format process. This is where it stores "usr prefs" and writes to fstab for /home/.

I am running an Azuz mother board using 786mb of ram, nvidia graphics card and a segate 100Gig hd.

Why would it even hang like that? I have also downloaded the distro through the web AND through BT. Both check out fine.

I've never had problems with SuSe up until now.


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