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Computer DUMB!
Do to the help received on this forum I was able to get SUSE Open installed the way I wanted it. However, having NO background in operating systems, I messed up several things that I don't know how to fix!
I bypassed the network section because I am a single user on a DSL line (Home user only) and didn't have any idea what was going on!
I installed by downloading program from NOVEL, so I don't have instructions.
I thought the system would do the DSL connection on it's own but I guess not, and I'm completely ignorant on how to correct this mistake, can you help?
The other major thing is the printer, it doesn't work either and I can't find a way to get SUSE to ask me what to do? printer is a SamSung Laser multifunction, if that helps.
Network:
You need to know if the connection is a static IP or DHCP. This should appear in the literature from your provider--or you can simply call them. If in doubt, most DSL connections are DHCP, so just try that. In the SUSE menus, there will be an item for network configuration.
Printer:
Also in the menus, there is a Printing manager. If you have any trouble finding it, just open a browser and enter "localhost:631". This takes you right to the setup--without any middleman. Choose: "add printer" and follow the steps.
In your menu go to the "computer" section than at the top click on YaST. You will be ask for your root password. When YaST opens in the left panel click on network devices then in the right panel click on DSL and fill in the rest. For the printer click on Hardware in the left panel and then printer in the right panel. You may be asked to install your DVD again so that cups can be installed but just follow the directions.
Network:
You need to know if the connection is a static IP or DHCP. This should appear in the literature from your provider--or you can simply call them. If in doubt, most DSL connections are DHCP, so just try that. In the SUSE menus, there will be an item for network configuration.
Printer:
Also in the menus, there is a Printing manager. If you have any trouble finding it, just open a browser and enter "localhost:631". This takes you right to the setup--without any middleman. Choose: "add printer" and follow the steps.
FOR GETTING ON LINE. Taking one thing at a time.
I looked up the stats in windows and found the following:
There are readings for :
1. Address Type. Assigned by DHCP
2. IP address.
3. Subnet Mask.
4. Default Gateway.
5.Physical address.
6.DHCP Server.
7. DNS Servers.
Number 4,5,6,6 are the same values xxx.xxx.x.x
Like I said, I'm confused, there is no explanation for idiots whatsoever!
Just blank spaces to be filled in, like this is all common knowledge!
I tried putting them in logical places but no luck.
LK
To see how Windows is actually running on your connection, open a terminal** and enter "ipconfig /all"
One of the first lines will tell you that DHCP is enabled. This means that the system has automatically set up most or all of the connection parameters.
In the Linux Network configuration dialog (Did you find it?), You should not have to do much more than simply tell the system you are using DHCP. (If you are using DHCP, you don't --eg--also set the IP manually)
**Windows-R for the run dialog, enter "cmd" to get a terminal window.
In your menu go to the "computer" section than at the top click on YaST. You will be ask for your root password. When YaST opens in the left panel click on network devices then in the right panel click on DSL and fill in the rest. For the printer click on Hardware in the left panel and then printer in the right panel. You may be asked to install your DVD again so that cups can be installed but just follow the directions.
Well Larry, you were the easiest to understand so I just did exactly what you said and the DSL connection is up and running strong. As I said before, I know absolutely nothing about Linux. This is my first distribution loading. It really makes one feel better knowing they are no longer tied to a single company, if you know what I mean!
Not that the menus made a lot of sense, but I achieved my objective and want you to know I really appreciate your help.
LK
PS. I have a lot of questions so please don't hesitate to reply if you have the expertise in that area.
Lola Kews if you have all those problems solved I'll tell you try and do all your modifications except for the desktop through YaST if possible. Make the desktop modifications (such as screen savers - background - themes - fonts - etc.) through kde Configure Desktop. With all this in mind here is a thread you need to read and it also will set you up with a repository for Suse called Packman which has a lot of the availible programs for Suse. It also has the directions for setting up the multimedia. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=509097
Lola Kews if you have all those problems solved I'll tell you try and do all your modifications except for the desktop through YaST if possible. Make the desktop modifications (such as screen savers - background - themes - fonts - etc.) through kde Configure Desktop. With all this in mind here is a thread you need to read and it also will set you up with a repository for Suse called Packman which has a lot of the availible programs for Suse. It also has the directions for setting up the multimedia. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=509097
Larry thanks for the link but now something has happened.
Evidently when I was fixing the printer install through YAST, it asked to insert the disk/DVD to install cups. Now when I boot the original set up screen/menu comes up, I waited a minute and then the selection menu came up for which operating system to select (as it should have). Why the original set up screen is coming up is strange to me. So, instead of starting off on the wrong foot, I'm going to format the drive and reinstall as a new installation. I should have it back up in 2 to 3 hours. I'll let you know.
LK
If you want to get the multimedia stuff working in SuSE Google for the Jem Report. It also gives details on adding on-line repositories so that you never need the CDs again. Good luck - well worth the effort and YaST is pretty good at doing most things - by the time you reach its limits you should be more knowledgeable.
If you want to get the multimedia stuff working in SuSE Google for the Jem Report. It also gives details on adding on-line repositories so that you never need the CDs again. Good luck - well worth the effort and YaST is pretty good at doing most things - by the time you reach its limits you should be more knowledgeable.
Sorry to say that after I reinstalled SUSE open I had no DSL connection and the printer doesn't work.
I tried going into YAST and doing things as described above but it sure didn't work this time, probably because I just don't understand the things they are asking for. There seems to be no simple translation for DSL connection verbiage. I went into the depths of windows and retrieved everything it had to say about my network connections, but when you try to apply that data to the menu's in SUSE, the jargon is totally different so you/me (beginner) has no idea of what the hell is going on and what information to enter. There isn't even a remote resemblance to make an educated guess!
It was working! I shut down, and restarted the system, now there is no connection .
In the original question I gave a description of all the information (windows derived). Now if you experts can't translate that into what SUSE wants in there menu's, how is a totally unexperienced person supposed to do it? Seriously, explain this to me?
LK
Well, since no one has answered, I guess you must have explained it. I'll go back and read everything again and see if I can pull this installation off. Sorry about blowing up, it is just frustrating for me, and I guess for you guys to.
LK
If you can't remember what you did that got the DSL working then it's going to be a bit difficult. Because it was working once it means that it must be possible to get it going again! I make notes of what I put into the various YaST screens on an installation - that way I don't have to remember or guess what works! It also helps when you ask for help if you can tell exactly what you did.
Key thing is to take a methodical approach and when changing stuff try not to change too many things at once if you can help it. Good luck.
Lola we are here to try and help and I realise how frustrating it can be doing something without a road map. Its hard for us to help without specific questions. A lot of help I found was by using the search at the top of these pages and by learning the terminology. (I'm still learning) Another thing is Google is good for help also and Suse has a good Wiki. I will try to help but remember we can't see your problems or monitor. Don't give up to easily, I can't describe how satisfying it can be to get an install working.
Last edited by Larry Webb; 09-10-2007 at 05:54 PM.
Lola we are here to try and help and I realise how frustrating it can be doing something without a road map. Its hard for us to help without specific questions. A lot of help I found was by using the search at the top of these pages and by learning the terminology. (I'm still learning) Another thing is Google is good for help also and Suse has a good Wiki. I will try to help but remember we can't see your problems or monitor. Don't give up to easily, I can't describe how satisfying it can be to get an install working.
Larry I'm not giving up by any stretch of the imagination! I have had SUSE up and I really like what I see, not to mention the absolute "Power" this distro has going for it (If they don't sleep with MS)!!
I realize that you guys need facts/reality of what is going on to make realistic decisions .
I will definitely start keeping a log on what is happening so everyone can see what I am talking about without me busting out in a temper tantrum.
About the only thing I can say right now is, Windows quit (Connection not found)! SUSE open will connect if I play with on line/off line.
I get a message in Firefox that says basically, your last session closed unexpectedly, start new session or restore session.
Even though closed correctly!
But I see what you are saying! I'll start keeping a log file to present a better approach to the problem to all.
Thanks to all, LK.
Lola we are here to try and help and I realise how frustrating it can be doing something without a road map. Its hard for us to help without specific questions. A lot of help I found was by using the search at the top of these pages and by learning the terminology. (I'm still learning) Another thing is Google is good for help also and Suse has a good Wiki. I will try to help but remember we can't see your problems or monitor. Don't give up to easily, I can't describe how satisfying it can be to get an install working.
If I boot to Linux, Firefox comes up with Server not found, and another note about being in an offline mode.
I clicked on the ethernet connection in the menu bar and switched to OFF line, then I switched it back on line and opened firefox, I was connected!
If I shut down and restart the computer the same scenario develops, and I have to go through the same procedures as described.
Something I have noticed: I have 2 LAN cards that are built into the motherboard, one of these has a note about being "un plugged"! I am not sure what that means exactly since I only have one Ethernet connection from the modem to one of the ethernet connectors off the motherboard.
Does this have a bearing on things? Am I confused about the connection term? I disconnected the the unplugged one, was this the right thing to do?
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