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Old 11-04-2005, 05:11 AM   #1
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Conflicts when trying to install xine-lib


Hi,

I found out that I havn't installed the req. Xine-lib for xine, which would problably solve some of my video problems. But when I try to install the package I get the following conflicts:

#### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2005-11-04 12:08:28 ####

xine-lib 1.1.0-12 conflict
Conflicts with:
kaffeine requires libxine1 >= 1-
kaffeine-mozilla requires libxine1 >= 1-
libstk requires libxine1
libxine1-aa requires libxine1 = 1.1.0-12.pm.1
libxine1-devel requires libxine1 = 1.1.0-12.pm.1
libxine1-directfb requires libxine1 = 1.1.0-12.pm.1
libxine1-dvb requires libxine1 = 1.1.0-12.pm.1
libxine1-dxr3 requires libxine1 = 1.1.0-12.pm.1
44 more...
Conflict Resolution:
( ) Do Not Install xine-lib
( ) Remove All 14 Conflicting Packages
Delete kaffeine-mozilla
Delete libxine1-sdl
Delete libxine1-dxr3
Delete libstk
Delete libxine1-directfb
Delete libxine1-devel
Delete libxine1-stk
Delete kaffeine-gstreamer
6 more...
( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies

#### YaST2 conflicts list END ###

What should I do?

/Steffen
 
Old 11-04-2005, 09:44 AM   #2
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you can't mix SuSE and packman libs
 
Old 11-04-2005, 09:49 AM   #3
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You can mix SuSE and Packman Libs. I should know, I did it, 3 times. So you sure can do it. All you have to do is remove the conflicts, uninstall the old junky xines, and install the new hotness from packman.
 
Old 11-04-2005, 10:27 AM   #4
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All you have to do is remove the conflicts, uninstall the old junky xines, and install the new hotness from packman.
Doesn't that in fact mean that you can't mix packman and SUSE packages? Remove SUSE and replace with packman sound much like it!
 
Old 11-04-2005, 10:51 AM   #5
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But will the new xine be available from Yast at anytime in the future? (In case I don't want to remove the SUSE one and install the packman)
 
Old 11-04-2005, 12:01 PM   #6
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I suppose what I said is kind of leaning towards they aren't compatible to mix... but you dont' have to remove all SusE packages to get the ones from packman(updates) to work. Many other dependencies of those packages still work fine from SuSE. The only things I had to replace were the old libs, which means, you can't upgrade xinelibs with xinelibs from other sources. But since you are upgrading those anyway, you can remove them first.
It isn't a new Xine alone issue. From SuSE, the versions you will get won't have mp3, they will be stripped. They also won't support additional things and certain movie formats, If you don't care, you can use SuSE's as the upgraded(but stripped) libraries will be available as SuSE gets around to it. They are working constantly on new and updated packages, but they can't do them all at once. So they are behind in release of current upgrades.
 
Old 11-04-2005, 12:36 PM   #7
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no, you can't mix libs, you can mix parts of the software that do not interact directly e.g. front-ends:
xine-ui suse and rest of the xine from packman, or xine-ui from packman and the rest from suse. That is prety obvious because dependencies are different.
Front-end does not care (xine-ui, Keffeine, and so on), but libs do.

He cant and should not try to install xine-lib together with packman xine libraries. This is a part of suse's xine package. His installation errors are typical and not supprising. If he wants xine-lib, then he needs to uninstall packman's xine and install SuSE's package. Of course, I dont see a point, because he is loosing functionality.

Last edited by broch; 11-04-2005 at 12:38 PM.
 
Old 11-04-2005, 06:19 PM   #8
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Go to this URL and follow their instructions. I used YaST to uninstall all DVD related aps from SuSE before installing these. They are all the current RPMs and specialize in making xine work. Unless German law changes SuSE's DVD application downloads will not support Hollywood DVD movies.

http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
 
Old 11-05-2005, 04:56 AM   #9
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Install the Smart Package manager

An easy way to resolve most SuSE dependency problems with rpms, is to install the 3rd party Smart Package Manager. Its available on the guru web site. Smart is compatible with YaST and APT (as long as you don't execute them at the same time, which is important). Then you do your package updates (for packages such as xine) using Smart.

I used to maintain complex lists of the various 3rd party multimedia, and which order to install them, etc ... to ensure my SuSE multimedia was "state of the art". After installing Smart, and watching it work, I threw out my lists. They are not needed and Smart looks after it for you.
 
Old 11-05-2005, 05:51 AM   #10
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looks like spam (smart installer). Not first thread, not first forum and not on topic
 
Old 11-05-2005, 08:11 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by broch
looks like spam (smart installer). Not first thread, not first forum and not on topic
Not spam, and on topic. steffendenize has a host of dependency problems. YaST will not automatically sort them, only advise they exist. The Smart Package Manage will sort them, offering to download needed packages to fix the dependencies, after one click.

I used to spend hours sorting out dependencies. I used to maintain massive lists of dependencies to help me install various packages. No longer. I've tried apt, and yast, and they are both good, but they are a generation behind Smart.

The simple fact is the easiest way for steffendenize to sort out his dependencies, is probably to install Smart. ... Anyway, 'nuff said. Go ahead and call this spam, and stay in the dark ages, and help him manually sort out his dependencies, at a double the time it would take to install and run Smart. I won't waste this bandwidth, nor anyone elses time, by trying to offer positive suggestions on this thread. Clearly you prefer the manual method, and fair enough.

Last edited by void_linux; 11-05-2005 at 08:26 AM.
 
Old 11-05-2005, 09:59 AM   #12
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yast does what it exactly should.
It this case whatever program you want to use it does not matter: you can't have installed xine libraries from packman and SuSE site.

He does not have dependency problems caused by unresolved missing software. If you don't understand this, smart installer will not help.
 
Old 11-05-2005, 10:48 AM   #13
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Ok, there seems to be a number of different suggestions to what I should do to solve the dependency conflict when trying to install the xine-libs. Either I should get a smart package manager or I should 'live' with the problems and do a manual work-around. Fair enough. I choose to do the manual work-around.

However, what I don't understand is that there is such a number of conflicts depending on which xine-lib you choose to install. What I read between the lines - correct me if I'm wrong - is that SUSE's xine-lib is 'bound' to the SUSE distro and that xine-lib (from xine on sourceforge) is distro independent? Am I getting this right? Is that the way it functions with all linux distros? That there is a number of conflict with software not installed using the 'package manager' that is integrated with the distro in question.
Pretty wierd thing as I would expect any distro to be able to use any software released under the open-software policy, hereunder the xine-lib directly from xine, and not necessarily waiting to SUSE to integrate it with their distros.

/steffen
 
Old 11-05-2005, 11:05 AM   #14
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You nailed it. And you are right as well, it should be cross platform, but there are things some distros do to various packages, like KDE, xine, and others, to customize them, or make them legal to release with their free versions. WHich means in order to gain additional features, you need to know which version you want... the generic, or the one for your distro.
 
Old 11-05-2005, 11:06 AM   #15
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o.k. easy and for windows:
download winzip
download arj
unpack both

replace part of winzip config files with arj. Try to run "modified" program.
This way you can also mix MS word with Wordperfect and so on and so for.
Is this clear? Or you still can't grasp it?
 
  


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