Beryl with 10.2

parsek77 · 12-11-2006, 10:51 AM

With 10.2, beryl should work without Xgl because of the new X and the latest Nvidia drivers. I have upgraded to 10.2 and installed latest Nvidia drivers but couldn't get work beryl without Xgl. Is there anyone has success with beryl without Xgl? thanks

onjoo · 12-11-2006, 11:05 AM

Have you followed this guide http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl or did you try to do it some other way?

parsek77 · 12-11-2006, 11:08 AM

Yes, I followed that guide and it didn't work. I also looked at beryl project wiki but couldn't run it without Xgl. It is working but with Xgl.

biosol · 12-11-2006, 03:39 PM

I have it working after following this thread. Beryl guilde

I didn't install XGL, just the NVIDIA driver and then searched for beryl in Yast and installed all 5 or 6 rpms for that.

Hope that helps.

cueman · 12-11-2006, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biosol

I have it working after following this thread. Beryl guilde

I didn't install XGL, just the NVIDIA driver and then searched for beryl in Yast and installed all 5 or 6 rpms for that.

Hope that helps.

Well thats odd because the recommended way is to use beryl is WITH xgl, according to:

http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl

This is the way I set it up and it runs smooth as silk. I just had a few questions about it I posted a little while ago

onjoo · 12-11-2006, 11:56 PM

I dont want to start another beryl thread so I'll post a bit offtopic question

How can beryl be launched automatically in gnome?

Using SLED+ATI+newest buildservice beryl packages.

Everytime I log in, I have xgl running, but the window borders and minimize,maximize,close- buttons are missing. I have to start beryl-manager from terminal and Reload Window Decorator(emerald) to get things normal.

Can anybody help?

parsek77 · 12-12-2006, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biosol

I have it working after following this thread. Beryl guilde

I didn't install XGL, just the NVIDIA driver and then searched for beryl in Yast and installed all 5 or 6 rpms for that.

Hope that helps.

It helped, thanks. My problem was deactivating the KDE's composite manager. But after I upgraded beryl, I got the white screen problem. The solution for that is also given. This time beryl.sh script wasn't working. Because KDE was trying to open up my previous session. I changed KDE session startup (empty session) and it worked. The speed improvement is clearly visible over xgl.

Cueman,

You don't need xgl for beryl with the new X (7.2) and Nvidia drivers.

cueman · 12-12-2006, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onjoo

I dont want to start another beryl thread so I'll post a bit offtopic question

How can beryl be launched automatically in gnome?

Using SLED+ATI+newest buildservice beryl packages.

Everytime I log in, I have xgl running, but the window borders and minimize,maximize,close- buttons are missing. I have to start beryl-manager from terminal and Reload Window Decorator(emerald) to get things normal.

Can anybody help?

Go down to the near bottom of this page, it has what you are looking for:

http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl

cueman · 12-12-2006, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsek77

It helped, thanks. My problem was deactivating the KDE's composite manager. But after I upgraded beryl, I got the white screen problem. The solution for that is also given. This time beryl.sh script wasn't working. Because KDE was trying to open up my previous session. I changed KDE session startup (empty session) and it worked. The speed improvement is clearly visible over xgl.

Cueman,

You don't need xgl for beryl with the new X (7.2) and Nvidia drivers.

You're right sorry, it was even right on the page I was going off of, just didn't read far enough down. I have a 256MB GeForce FX 5700, is that considered > GeForce 4? as the opensuse site says?

I don't keep up on the latest hardware like I used to. Tom's Hardware.com was practically my home page when I started this stuff

parsek77 · 12-12-2006, 01:32 PM

Cueman,

GeForce FX > GeForce 4 or MX series. You are right. You can check from here if you want:http://www.nvidia.com/page/desktop.html

onjoo · 12-12-2006, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cueman

Go down to the near bottom of this page, it has what you are looking for:

http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl

No it hasn't. Thats for KDE. But I added beryl-manager to gnome session startup.

But it still doesn't draw the window borders without manual reload

cueman · 12-12-2006, 02:23 PM

Well what I did to make it easy was just add a desktop icon 'link to application' put 'beryl-manager' in the command line and just start it up that way. I don't think I want to start it when KDE starts, I'd rather do it manually.

Sometimes I lose my window borders too, and just click the taskbar icon and 'reload window decorator' It does seem a little buggy at times.

cueman · 12-16-2006, 11:33 AM

I was wondering, before I had beryl installed, just using xgl desktop effects, you could change the opacity of a window by holding 'shift' and your mouse wheel. Now, with beryl, instead of changing to opaque it changes to black. I can't find a setting, maybe I'm missing it somewhere, but I like the opaque. It seemed the whole purpose was so you could see what was under your active window.

Is there a setting , maybe a color picker for the opacity setting?

Thanks

parsek77 · 12-16-2006, 11:44 AM

Do you mean translucency? Alt+mouse wheel

cueman · 12-16-2006, 11:57 AM

AAhh, thanks, it was shift/mouse wheel in the desktop effects by default I believe.

Thanks parsek !

On a side note, why would shift/mouse wheel do the darkness? I wonder the purpose.