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Distribution: Solaris 10, Solaris Express Community Edition
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Some questions about the new OpenSolaris release
Hi guys.
I'm using SXDE at home since the last 3 or 4 releases and I just saw that SXDE program has been discontinued in favor of OpenSolaris. I'm downloading now the CD and I have some questions, some of them perhaps naive, which I would like to answer before replacing SXDE.
- What I've been liking of SXCE and SXDE is the feeling of "continuity" with Solaris. Maybe it's just a fear but, for example, it sounds pretty strange to have /usr/gnu/bin in the PATH (as I was reading in the "What's new" @ opensolaris.com) by default before /usr/bin. I mean, it seems natural to me to use commands which supports Sun's extensions, such ACL support for example, as in ls' -v switch. Will this kind of things change in the next release of Solaris or they'll be peculiarities of OpenSolaris?
- SXDE is roughly 4GB, while OpenSolaris is less than 1 GB. My / filesystems is more or less 7 GB just after the installation of SXDE. What will I be missing with respect of a full Solaris installation?
- A question about the documentation. I'm used to the (in my opinion) excellent documentation I find in docs.sun.com. I noticed that the documentation of OpenSolaris is not even listed in docs.sun.com. Furthermore, a quick look at www.opensolaris.org and www.opensolaris.com doesn't make me feel "comfortable" about the organization of the documentation.
Distribution: Solaris 11.4, Oracle Linux, Mint, Debian/WSL
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Originally Posted by crisostomo_enrico
I just saw that SXDE program has been discontinued in favor of OpenSolaris.
SXCE is not discontinued. It is technically identical to SXDE, actually more up to date.
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- What I've been liking of SXCE and SXDE is the feeling of "continuity" with Solaris. Maybe it's just a fear but, for example, it sounds pretty strange to have /usr/gnu/bin in the PATH (as I was reading in the "What's new" @ opensolaris.com) by default before /usr/bin.
I guess the goal is to be more friendly to users caming from Gnu based OSes. You are certainly free to reorder the PATH elements to suit your needs, like I do.
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I mean, it seems natural to me to use commands which supports Sun's extensions, such ACL support for example, as in ls' -v switch.
True, but newcomers prefer ls fancy colors, go figure ...
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Will this kind of things change in the next release of Solaris or they'll be peculiarities of OpenSolaris?
I more than strongly doubt about it. That would break compatibility which is something taken seriously by Solaris engineering.
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- SXDE is roughly 4GB, while OpenSolaris is less than 1 GB. My / filesystems is more or less 7 GB just after the installation of SXDE. What will I be missing with respect of a full Solaris installation?
The first I see missing are Xsun, CDE and StarOffice. Non obsolete/encumbered apps can be installed from repositories, eg. openoffice.
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- A question about the documentation. I'm used to the (in my opinion) excellent documentation I find in docs.sun.com. I noticed that the documentation of OpenSolaris is not even listed in docs.sun.com. Furthermore, a quick look at www.opensolaris.org and www.opensolaris.com doesn't make me feel "comfortable" about the organization of the documentation.
Most of Solaris Express /OpenSolaris.org documentation is still relevant with Open Solaris.
Distribution: Solaris 10, Solaris Express Community Edition
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SXCE is not discontinued. It is technically identical to SXDE, actually more up to date.
Yes, I know. But as I use this workstation as a development machine, I'm not changing OS so often and preferred to stick with a more tested version of Solaris, even if I always read about the great stability of SXCE.
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I guess the goal is to be more friendly to users caming from Gnu based OSes. You are certainly free to reorder the PATH elements to suit your needs, like I do.
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True, but newcomers prefer ls fancy colors, go figure ...
I see Then I think I'm reordering my PATH, too.
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The first I see missing are Xsun, CDE and StarOffice. Non obsolete/encumbered apps can be installed from repositories, eg. openoffice.
The only thing I'll be missing will be StarOffice, I just quite get used to it and sort of... prefer it.
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Most of Solaris Express /OpenSolaris.org documentation is still relevant with Open Solaris.
I suppose. By the way, I also used Solaris docs when I could not find relevant documentation. But do you know if a "documentation project" is on the way, to build something organized as docs.sun.com? I mean: some basic Solaris administration (as auditing, monitoring, etc.) is not covered by opensolaris projects, is it?
There is new package software system. I believe it is very easy to install StarOffice via it?
A question Jilliagre: Now it suffices to create one single pool, and we install the root in one filesystem and create filesystems for the users, right? No more "allocating 4GB to /opt, allocating 5GB to /"? Everything goes into one root filesystem that grows dynamically? How do you layout your file systems? One big?
Distribution: Solaris 10, Solaris Express Community Edition
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Now it suffices to create one single pool, and we install the root in one filesystem and create filesystems for the users, right? No more "allocating 4GB to /opt, allocating 5GB to /"? Everything goes into one root filesystem that grows dynamically? How do you layout your file systems? One big?
Yesterday 03:44 PM
kebabbert, my understanding of ZFS suggests that there's no need to allocate space because every filesystem on a zpool will allocate space from the pool when necessary. I would indeed create filesystems for every user to set "quotas" on them. With ZFS, creating a FS is very light so you can assign a FS to an user and set a constraint on the FS size, instead of assigning quotas to users as we did with other filesystems. The documentation suggests to use entire disks as a pool, but if you want you could slice the disk and create pools on slices rather than using the entire disk as a single pool but personally I cannot see any advantage on doing this.
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