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Old 08-31-2007, 01:32 PM   #16
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#1: I wasn't either a huge Solstice fan. However, I think ZFS is now far simpler and much powerful than any other volume manager/file-system. As I'm quite sure the license would allow it, perhaps HP is going to integrate it to HP-UX ...
#2: I agree with you. Solaris admin utilities are too disparate and missing a utility like sam, smit or vmsa which are often used to figure out what underlying command is doing a specific task.
#3: I wasn't aware of it, definitely an interesting feature. No equivalent with Sun H/W.
#4 & #5: Neutral. I agree this is often reported as confusing but on the other it can be seen as a feature.
 
Old 08-31-2007, 01:53 PM   #17
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The Solaris community is actually probably one of the main reasons I decided it wasn't worth my time.
I hope this LQ Solaris Forum community will help you changing your mind
 
Old 08-31-2007, 01:59 PM   #18
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I haven't used zfs but did see a presentation on it. Based on the way it was described it sounded like it would be horrible for databases because of automatic allocations. When I asked that question the presenter agreed and said it shouldn't be used for those. Not a problem if you use raw storage for your data files but some folks prefer to use filesystems (though I've never known why since you have to turn off buffer cache and do other fun things to make it act like raw space anyway).
 
Old 08-31-2007, 02:41 PM   #19
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For those users who want using a file-system and not raw files, here is blog present measures showing only a 6% penalty when running on ZFS:

http://blogs.sun.com/realneel/entry/...bases_time_for
 
Old 11-09-2009, 02:40 PM   #20
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Ok, maybe it is time now to revive this thread. Now Solaris forum part is soon the most active of all Unixen. What does that mean? Solaris is gaining momentum? Or just a coincidence? Have you noticed that interest in Solaris/OpenSolaris has increased? Or just imagination from me?
 
Old 11-10-2009, 02:08 PM   #21
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I'd invite you to look at my first response to this thread. As I said then a high number of posts in and of itself tells you nothing. It could as easily indicate that Solaris is so fraught with problems that more posts are necessary to deal with issues.

I'd also note that LQ doesn't even have an HP-UX forum and that there are various other forums for various OSes in the world. Even if number of posts alone somehow indicated something one would have to tally all the posts on all the forums to truly determine things.

OpenSolaris is something I hear people that already do Solaris talk about. Most folks doing other things seem to spend more time talking about Linux when talking about things outside their primary commercial UNIX. I see Linux making inroads in many shops including even those that were formerly only doing Windoze.
 
Old 11-11-2009, 05:22 AM   #22
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I'd invite you to look at my first response to this thread. As I said then a high number of posts in and of itself tells you nothing. It could as easily indicate that Solaris is so fraught with problems that more posts are necessary to deal with issues
Could be, could be. But if people are trying to deal with the problems, instead of abandoning Solaris it could also be interpreted as Solaris is gaining popularity?

It is like, if Linux shows up a lot in Google statistics, does it mean that Linux has many install problems, or that there are many people (Linux is popular) willing to continue struggle with Linux?

I think I see an increase in OpenSolaris and ZFS. I expect soon, this Solaris forum part will be more popular than BSD.
 
Old 11-11-2009, 10:15 AM   #23
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Not that it means much more than this very forum statistics, but here are some google trends stats about it:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=OpenS...ate=all&sort=0

http://www.google.com/trends?q=OpenS...ate=all&sort=0

http://www.google.com/trends?q=OpenS...ate=all&sort=0
 
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Interesting.

If you make it a bit more generic to opensolaris, bsd and linux it says:

"opensolaris does not have enough search volume for ranking"
http://www.google.com/trends?q=OpenS...ate=all&sort=0

If you change it from opensolaris to just solaris it still shows Linux with the lion's share:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=Solar...ate=all&sort=1

But as asserted previously I don't believe number of posts (or news stories) alone could tell you anything about the popularity or lack thereof of a given OS.
 
Old 03-30-2010, 09:32 AM   #25
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SPARC lost a lot of its luster when the now infamous "cosmic ray" affected chips appeared in the (then) top of the line E10000 and other systems.
I'm sure you'll like that one:

quoted from: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/03...a-cosmic-rays/
Toyota’s problem with unintended acceleration has been blamed on everything from the position of the floor mats to the shape of the accelerator pedal to glitches in the cars’ software. There may be another cause: Cosmic rays.

It’s not as crazy as you might think.

Cosmic radiation has been known to wreak havoc on the chips in electronic components. According to LiveScience, some scientists believe that could be one cause of unintended acceleration and other problems Toyota owners are reporting. The automaker has recalled 7.7 million vehicles since November, and investigators are trying to figure out what’s going on.
By the way, not that it means anything but the Solaris/OpenSolaris forum is likely to pass the BSD one (3,957 vs 2959 threads) really shortly.

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Old 03-30-2010, 10:31 AM   #26
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Yep. I noticed that there will be more posts and more threads than BSD very soon. However, Linux is still way ahead.
 
Old 03-30-2010, 10:58 AM   #27
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The latter is obviously to be expected on a Linux oriented site
 
Old 03-30-2010, 02:43 PM   #28
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That's funny when you know SPARC is probably the only open architecture (Any chip maker can build a SPARC compliant CPU without risking to be sued) and very likely the only one with a GPL implementation (UltraSPARC T).
AHM according to wikipedia, powerpc is open.
 
Old 03-30-2010, 03:14 PM   #29
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Sure it is but don't confuse Open Standards & Specifications with Open Source. AIX, HP-UX and Solaris (outside OpenSolaris distributions) are examples of Open Standards based Operating systems that are proprietary and closed source.
 
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I'm pretty sure the reason for the accelerator issue is that Elvis and Bigfoot got drunk one night on their flying saucer then spent the next day designing the accelerator.

BSD - we decommissioned our 2 remaining FreeBSD systems earlier this month in favor of Linux on newer servers. Doesn't mean FreeBSD wasn't a good OS - just that the company has standardized on Linux for FOSS OS.

P.S. It wasn't just that Sun claimed the chips were affected by cosmic rays but rather that they spent so much time pretending there was no problem, limiting who they admitted it to behind NDAs when they finally did and then trying to make customers pay for the upgrades. All that on top of a flawed initial design that would (if you believe it) allow for such cosmic ray impact on high end products.

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