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Old 03-22-2008, 11:42 PM   #1
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My Thoughts on Solaris Express 01/08


Hello all,

After YEARS of trying to get ANY Solaris installed on one of my PCs, I was finally able to get the latest installed. (I've been trying since version 8). I installed it on a Medion laptop w/2GB/160GB SATA/AMD Turion x64 X2 1.7GHz w/256k cache in each core/Nvidia GeForce Go 6150/Nvidia nforce NIC. Wistron AC97 sound and built in web cam, firewire drive. Samsung ML-1210 printer.

Anyway, I prefer to save the best for last, so I'll discuss the negatives I encountered first.
1. Boot up and shutdown times are terrible. Boot up might not be so bad, but it must have taken between 5-10 minutes to finally power down. Including the 60 seconds it said it would take to actually start the shutdown after I clicked the "shutdown" button (I'm guessing that it is configurable if you know where it is).
2. I saved a screen shot to my USB flash drive, and this 498,607 byte file took about 10 minutes to save. I wonder if the system was trying to write when it thought nothing was happening. The light on the drive went on and off periodically.
3. Internet speed and download speed didn't seem very fast, but I didn't do any real tests.
4. It doesn't want to coexist with Windows.

The good.
1. It not only recognized my printer, it actually set up the printer correctly and I could print! I haven't been able to do that in PC-BSD.
2. The sound worked correctly.
3. I could view video news clips from Yahoo.
4. The interface is very sleek and cool looking (I was using Gnome).
5. I like the ability to assign a meaningful icon to various folders (directories) whether they be on the hdd, USB drive, optical or whatever.
6. It had no problem allowing me to set the acceleration of my mice so I could get the response I like from them.
7. It installed easily and in a reasonable amount of time.

To be fair, I never checked the wireless, and don't remember anything in the system tray area that said that wireless was available (it is).

All in all, it was a pretty good experience, but I simply don't have an extra computer lying around to run it on (so I wiped it and restored Windows). I'm still of the mind that it's not quite ready for prime time, but it's darn close.

Terry
 
Old 03-23-2008, 04:22 AM   #2
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1. Boot up and shutdown times are terrible. Boot up might not be so bad, but it must have taken between 5-10 minutes to finally power down. Including the 60 seconds it said it would take to actually start the shutdown after I clicked the "shutdown" button (I'm guessing that it is configurable if you know where it is).
This one minute delay is there to protect against accidental button press.
You can skip it by confirming you really want to shutdown.
Outside that, the first OS shutdown is slow because the boot archive is built at that time. Should you change critical kernel files later, eg by installing a new driver, this will happen again. Otherwise, shutdown times should be reasonable and certainly quicker than what you describe.
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2. I saved a screen shot to my USB flash drive, and this 498,607 byte file took about 10 minutes to save. I wonder if the system was trying to write when it thought nothing was happening. The light on the drive went on and off periodically.
Something definitely dysfunctional here. Even with USB 1, a small file like that one should be saved in seconds, not minutes.
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3. Internet speed and download speed didn't seem very fast, but I didn't do any real tests.
The Internet link should be the bottleneck, not the OS, NIC or disk I/Os.
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4. It doesn't want to coexist with Windows.
What do you mean ?
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To be fair, I never checked the wireless, and don't remember anything in the system tray area that said that wireless was available (it is).
That depends on the wifi chipset used.
 
Old 03-23-2008, 07:32 AM   #3
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There are wifi chipsets drivers downloadable from opensolaris.org

Solaris has a new TCP/IP stack that allows for tremendous throughput, it is very fast.

Some USB sticks has problems, others dont have problems. I tried a USB mouse, and Solaris didnt recognize it. Solaris recognized other USB mice.

You can install Virtualbox under Windows or OpenSolaris, and then install the other OS on top. Try that, next time instead of wiping the entire disc?
 
Old 03-27-2008, 09:40 PM   #4
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My Thoughts on Solaris Express 01/08

Hi all,

Thanks for the answers. When I said Solaris doesn't coexist w/Windows, I should have been more precise in my language. What I meant was that I could not get it to install on my hard drive without it wanting to take over the whole disk. Perhaps it's my ignorance of how to manipulate the installer so it would only use the 1st primary part. (which was available). But either way, if I can't get it to work on my computer with Windows, I will not be able to use it because as much as I hate it, I am stuck with Windows for certain things. When I installed Solaris, I told it to use the whole disk. Also, when Solaris was installed, I booted knoppix and looked at the partitions with QTparted and it shows three separate partitions. I figured one was a boot partition, one was the main installation, but I didn't know what the other one was. And linux couldn't tell me the partition type either. Although, I can't imagine a boot partition being 7.x MB. Anyway, if anyone has thoughts on how I can get it to install on my 1st primary partition which is still open, and still keep Windows, I'd be mighty grateful.

Terry
 
Old 03-28-2008, 03:34 AM   #5
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I'm confused by your description. If you tell Solaris to use the whole disk, it will use a single primary partition spanning the whole disk. Otherwise, it will still use a single primary partition but you'll have the choice to select which one or to create it with the installer.

Did you select "Custom Install" when prompted for "Installation type" ?
 
Old 03-28-2008, 08:54 PM   #6
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My Thoughts on Solaris Express 01/08

Well, I promise, when I installed Solaris, I told it to use the whole disk. But afterward when I booted knoppix to look at the disk layout, it showed three partitions. One was 7.x MB the other was what looked like the entire disk (I don't remember the other two sizes), and the third I forget.

I don't remember for sure what I selected for the install type. I believe it was the default.

Previously to this install, I tried to install it in the first primary partition and it tried to take the whole disk so I aborted. It would be nice if I could get it to coexist with Windows. Thanks for your answers.

Terry
 
Old 03-29-2008, 04:02 AM   #7
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Okay, I got it. Knoppix is showing your slices as partitions. Linux doesn't make a difference between them.

So indeed, there is a 7.84 MB boot slice at the beginning of the Solaris partition containing the boot loader: grub stage 1, disk label and vtoc then grub stage 2.

About the installation process and specifically dual-boot configuration, have a look at this document:

http://developers.sun.com/solaris/ar...ted_guide.html
 
Old 03-29-2008, 10:46 PM   #8
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Thanks very much. I was under the impression that you could only see slices when you were running that particular UNIX. Shows how much I know.

And thanks for that Sun web page about installing. I'll check it out later when I have a fresh backup of my hard drive.

Terry
 
  


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