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Old 06-30-2013, 06:18 AM   #31
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Regardless of your chipset (though it seems more common with intel), if KDE
  crashes on startup, try disabling the Composite extension (which will also
  disable all of the fancy desktop effects).  Place the following content in
  a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/disable-composite.conf:
    Section "Extensions"
      Option "Composite" "Disable"
    EndSection
Did this: no change.

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If an alternative window manager fails, then it may be a problem with X. The output from /var/log/Xorg.0.log can help here.
Just to confirm: every DE fails in the way described.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 10:47 AM   #32
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Your Mint install is using X.Org X Server 1.13.0 and kernel 3.5.0-17, which are later versions than in Slackware 14.0 which is using X.Org X Server 1.12.3 and kernel 3.2.29 ( or X.Org X Server 1.12.4 and kernel 3.2.45 if fully patched).
Slackware 14.0 included newer versions of libdrm and X video drivers for intel in /testing.
From README.TXT

You could try installing these.

Alternatively, you could consider upgrading to Slackware-current which is using X.Org X Server 1.13.4 and kernel 3.9.5
Do you know of a step-by-step howto for this Allend?
I am toying with the idea of upgrading the kernel to 3.9 series on advice from you and Kikinovak; but perhaps I could tough it through with -current if i had a good guide.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:32 AM   #33
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Do you know of a step-by-step howto for this Allend?
As posted here. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post4981513

I really think that your best strategy is to update to Slackware-current. Simply upgrading the kernel on Slackware 14.0 will not update the XOrg X Server version.
 
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:16 AM   #34
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how to configure CL for bigger font?

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As posted here. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post4981513

I really think that your best strategy is to update to Slackware-current. Simply upgrading the kernel on Slackware 14.0 will not update the XOrg X Server version.
Thanks. I've just been studying up on precisely that.
Amazing what a week of trying to familiarize yourself can bring: now I feel the confidence to give it a shot.
I think it was the -relative- success and experience gained in upgrading the kernel that has put me in this position.

I've just been discovering the marvelous -weightless?- world sans gui! out of necessity! and I like it!

One quick thing: when I went to X -configure (as per a bit of advice I picked up somewhere) i got this interesting error message:
"there are more devices trying to load than are physically present" in reference, i believe, to monitors.

So I dived in to the xorg.conf.new file that (i think) was produced by my running X -configure,
and had a look. Very interesting: a lot of stuff commented that I would have thought I needed to have running, but also, must confess, it was all way beyond my experience to make a judgement call about what was in, what was out, so I left it.

Maybe you could leave a little comment about this when you get a moment.

One last one: i'm going blind with the small print in my CL! How to configure it for larger print?

thx and regs
 
Old 07-02-2013, 09:57 AM   #35
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So I dived in to the xorg.conf.new file that (i think) was produced by my running X -configure,
and had a look. Very interesting: a lot of stuff commented that I would have thought I needed to have running, but also, must confess, it was all way beyond my experience to make a judgement call about what was in, what was out, so I left it.

Maybe you could leave a little comment about this when you get a moment.
Just been looking at this issue in this thread. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...3/#post4982503

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One last one: i'm going blind with the small print in my CL! How to configure it for larger print?
Perhaps 'setconsolefont' will allow you to find something more comfortable.
 
Old 07-02-2013, 01:46 PM   #36
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system upgraded to -current; GUI still not right

Last night, I made a successful move to -current (though this meant going from v.3.8.1 to v.3.7.1) but this has not solved my primary, obstinent problem:
  1. starting X with KDE crashes the system;
  2. starting X with xfce, gui not rendering objects correctly and launching either firefox or thunderbird leads to flakey, unusable instances of both;
  3. konsole working perfectly but terminal emulator patchy.

I'm not going away, nor will I capitulate, before I see KDE's glory unfurled on my spiffingly smart and new machine.

Any fresh ideas, or even some stale, old ones ... would be, as per usual, much appreciated.
Regs
 
Old 07-02-2013, 03:58 PM   #37
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Last night, I made a successful move to -current (though this meant going from v.3.8.1 to v.3.7.1)
Quite astonishing, since -current runs on 3.9.7 at this point in time.

Some questions:
- Which video hardware with which drivers?
- Is the hardware confirmed to be working correctly (testing with a different OS, for example)?
 
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:03 PM   #38
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Some questions:
- Which video hardware with which drivers?
- Is the hardware confirmed to be working correctly (testing with a different OS, for example)?
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...tx-4175465855/
 
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textillis - Where are you sourcing your Slackware?

Perhaps a change of mirror site will help. I have been very happy with this local Australian mirror. It generally updates within 24 hours after a change in Slackware64-current.
http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/s...are64-current/
 
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:56 PM   #40
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textillis - Where are you sourcing your Slackware?

Perhaps a change of mirror site will help. I have been very happy with this local Australian mirror. It generally updates within 24 hours after a change in Slackware64-current.
http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/s...are64-current/
Swinburne.... oh, zut! that means I have to go drag _another_ 2/3 GB off the net!
Oh well, lesson learned.

thanks, as usual

PS i'll put that one down to a trial run

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Old 07-03-2013, 12:11 AM   #41
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system downgrade to old "-current" successful

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Quite astonishing, since -current runs on 3.9.7 at this point in time.

Some questions:
- Which video hardware with which drivers?
- Is the hardware confirmed to be working correctly (testing with a different OS, for example)?
Tobi, your "quite astonishing" is the most charitable construction one could put on my "upgrade".
"Quite stupid", "typical newbie trap" are other phrases that sprung instantly to my mind when I read your and Allend's helpful responses this morning.

My mistake: I got my *cough...cough "-current" version from an out-dated source, here in Australia.
Allend has kindly put me onto a more reliably updated mirror, to which I fly, hope banging in my foolish, optimistic heart...

Irrepressibly,
 
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@textillis: your multiple threads on the same subject have been merged to keep replies in one place. Please do not do that again.
 
Old 07-03-2013, 01:18 AM   #43
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@textillis: your multiple threads on the same subject have been merged to keep replies in one place. Please do not do that again.
Message received and understood. Thanks for a great site.
Will make greater effort to observe all rules and decorum.
With apologies,
regs
 
Old 07-03-2013, 01:26 AM   #44
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textillis - Where are you sourcing your Slackware?

Perhaps a change of mirror site will help. I have been very happy with this local Australian mirror. It generally updates within 24 hours after a change in Slackware64-current.
http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/s...are64-current/
Can you believe it? I got 2/3 through upgrade process and f*****g Optus dropped me!
Then as I scrambled in a still totally useless gui to relaunch connection, the network icon went west, and the menu item I had originally used to set up my internet connect, Network Manager, or Network Congiguaration (that's just it! i can't read anything clearly in the menus!) is not responding.

So, no internet and another best part of a GB down the gurgler!

Allend, just a couple of quick questions if/when you have a moment:
  1. Is there a way of my bypassing GU interface in order to get my internet back again?
  2. Do you think, given that I was nearly finished the <slackpkg install-new> process when this happened, that my system will pick up the thread from where it was dumped and continue on, or will it more likely be the case that I'll just have to bite down and start whole process again?
  3. Finally, if your answer to #1 is "Niet", then I suppose the only other option would be to do a complete re-install, open up flakey gui again and hope this time that i can get my old configuration back so as to set up internet the way I had it? (so far, several reboots just take me back to same altered, non-responsive xfce DE)
 
Old 07-03-2013, 02:29 AM   #45
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Quite astonishing, since -current runs on 3.9.7 at this point in time.

Some questions:
- Which video hardware with which drivers?
- Is the hardware confirmed to be working correctly (testing with a different OS, for example)?
  1. BriodgeIvy CPU with inbuilt intel graphics.
  2. Hardware working splendidly with Mint.
  3. If I can get my internet connection back with Slack install, then I will proceed to upgrade to -current, third attempt! and this will, i hope to christ, do the trick

Thanks for taking the time TobiSGD.
 
  


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