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dragonprasad 02-09-2014 10:04 AM

Slackware 14.1 installation not working
 
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]hello!
i have lenovo ideapad z858 series laptop with 4 GB ram, AMD A8 1.8 GHZ processor, 1 TB hard disk, it came with pre-loaded windows 8 (64 bit) but i have now installed with windows 7(32 bit).
I am trying to install Slackware 14.1(64 bit) in dual boot.

During booting it got stuck i waited for more than 20 minus but it did not move ahead. i have attached the image where it has been stuck.
i checked the ISO on vmware it is working....
Kindly help me out in installing it since i am eagerly waiting to start with LFS

Nephew 02-11-2014 03:13 AM

Boot again from the DVD/CD then mount the hard disk partition on which linux is installed and check if the files are accessible.
Maybe your lilo(or other boot stuff) config is not correct. Maybe a problem with MBR.

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephew (Post 5115393)
Boot again from the DVD/CD then mount the hard disk partition on which linux is installed and check if the files are accessible.
Maybe your lilo(or other boot stuff) config is not correct. Maybe a problem with MBR.

i downloaded the iso files twice and mount on two different dvds but still it is have the same effects it is stuck at the same point.

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 06:06 AM

first when it was not working i thought about the windows 7 is not allowing the slackware to install so formatted the windows partition and now their is only one partition which is empty. But still when i enter the Slackware bootable dvd in it and boot it is again stuck at the same place.
please help me.

Nephew 02-11-2014 06:09 AM

Ok, so it is not even booting from the DVD.
Might be hardware that is not recognized by the Slackware boot disk?
Have you tried booting with the "huge" kernel, is that option still available?

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 06:15 AM

yes
i tried it also but not working.

harryhaller 02-11-2014 06:36 AM

Can you try adding "nomodeset" as a boot option?

It might help.

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by harryhaller (Post 5115470)
Can you try adding "nomodeset" as a boot option?

It might help.

how to do it.

harryhaller 02-11-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonprasad (Post 5115487)
how to do it.

You're stretching my memory now and I can't just stick an installation dvd in my pc, boot, and try it it out, so help me here.

When you boot the dvd does it get so far as to ask you for any options? I see that you said above that you chose the huge kernel. In that case you just type the word nomodeset, preceded by a space, after the kernel name (huge.s ?).

I'm suggesting the nomodeset parameter because the problem might be that the boot program is trying to switch the display mode of the screen and it can't - then it just hangs.

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by harryhaller (Post 5115470)
Can you try adding "nomodeset" as a boot option?

It might help.

i check out about the nomodeset but when it is not stuck at the initial and not allowing to select any option to it

harryhaller 02-11-2014 08:16 AM

I've just booted my netbook with the 14.0 installation dvd - if you're not getting to the boot prompt where it asks for parameters, then something is very strange. Have you done an MD5 check on the iso file? I know you say it worked on vmware, but a check might still be worthwhile.

When you checked it on vmware, was that from the iso file or from the dvd?

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by harryhaller (Post 5115500)
You're stretching my memory now and I can't just stick an installation dvd in my pc, boot, and try it it out, so help me here.

When you boot the dvd does it get so far as to ask you for any options? I see that you said above that you chose the huge kernel. In that case you just type the word nomodeset, preceded by a space, after the kernel name (huge.s ?).

I'm suggesting the nomodeset parameter because the problem might be that the boot program is trying to switch the display mode of the screen and it can't - then it just hangs.


after inserting the dvd and it start booting then at this following screen appear. So should i enter this command "nomodeset huge.s root=/dev/sda1 rdinit= ro"

harryhaller 02-11-2014 08:26 AM

No.

just:
Quote:

nomodeset
EDIT:
What you suggested is what you use if you wish to boot into an already installed slackware.

But you are trying to install Slackware, so you just need the one parameter.

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by harryhaller (Post 5115522)
I've just booted my netbook with the 14.0 installation dvd - if you're not getting to the boot prompt where it asks for parameters, then something is very strange. Have you done an MD5 check on the iso file? I know you say it worked on vmware, but a check might still be worthwhile.

When you checked it on vmware, was that from the iso file or from the dvd?


i am using 14.1 dvd.
i am getting the screen where it ask to select the kernel version or use default version.
i have done the MD5 check and it is correct.
for checking it on the VMware, i used the file from dvd.

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Originally Posted by harryhaller (Post 5115535)
No.

just:


or maybe


ok i will just try it and tell you the result what i got

harryhaller 02-11-2014 08:34 AM

Please note that I have corrected the previous post.

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 08:36 AM

i tried the commands you gave.
for this command
root=/dev/sda1 rdinit= ro nomodeset
it returned

could not find kernel image: root=/dev/sda1 rdinit= ro nomodeset
and for this command
huge.s root=/dev/sda1 rdinit= ro nomodeset
it again got in the same situation...
stuck at the same point..

harryhaller 02-11-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonprasad (Post 5115544)
i tried the commands you gave.
for this command
root=/dev/sda1 rdinit= ro nomodeset
it returned

could not find kernel image: root=/dev/sda1 rdinit= ro nomodeset
and for this command
huge.s root=/dev/sda1 rdinit= ro nomodeset
it again got in the same situation...
stuck at the same point..

Our posts crossed - I have corrected that post - what you entered was for someone trying to boot into an already installed system - I forgot that you are INSTALLING slackware - thus you should just need to enter the one word "nomodeset" (without quotes) at the prompt.

Sorry my mistake. (I even clicked by mistake your post as helpful.. I need more coffee. ;)

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by harryhaller (Post 5115535)
No.

just:


EDIT:
What you suggested is what you use if you wish to boot into an already installed slackware.

But you are trying to install Slackware, so you just need the one parameter.

i tried for the before given command it does not work and i tried for this one also.
when the screen appear and ask for pressing enter i entered nomodeset but it gave
could not found the kernel image : nomodeset.

harryhaller 02-11-2014 08:53 AM

Yup, it wants the kernel name as well

Quote:

huge.s nomodeset

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by harryhaller (Post 5115558)
Yup, it wants the kernel name as well

no effect still stucking at same place

harryhaller 02-11-2014 09:03 AM

Ok, it was worth the try. When it gets working you'll see that shortly afterwards it blanks the screen, resetting the mode, and sometimes that is a problem.

Try this as well - another boot parameter.

Since it seems to be getting stuck at a point where it is fiddling with acpi, this might help:

Quote:

huge.s nomodeset acpi=force

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by harryhaller (Post 5115563)
Ok, it was worth the try. When it gets working you'll see that shortly afterwards it blanks the screen, resetting the mode, and sometimes that is a problem.

Try this as well - another boot parameter.

Since it seems to be getting stuck at a point where it is fiddling with acpi, this might help:


no change!

harryhaller 02-11-2014 09:09 AM

OK - try this:

Quote:

huge.s nomodeset acpi=off
btw, check out this page about command line boot parameters.

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 09:09 AM

i would i also like to remind that their is no OS installed on the laptop.
their is only one partition of 1TB.

harryhaller 02-11-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonprasad (Post 5115569)
i would i also like to remind that their is no OS installed on the laptop.
their is only one partition of 1TB.

That doesn't matter at the moment - you'll be asked to create the partitions prior to "setup".

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 09:16 AM

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OK - try this:



btw, check out this page about command line boot parameters.

it passed the ACPI but again stopped at RCP, following is the image attached of that point

harryhaller 02-11-2014 09:27 AM

PCI stuff follows RCP. It might be stuck at rcp or at the pci stuff which follows. Can you check that link I posted and play with the parameters for pci? I can't find anything on rcp at the moment.

I have to go now, but I'll be back on line in about 3 hours - minus some teeth :(

harryhaller 02-11-2014 09:31 AM

You should also try booting without the "nomodeset" parameter, since it was acpi which was causing the problems up to that point in the boot process.

harryhaller 02-11-2014 12:35 PM

Here is my boot log from about the section where you are getting stuck:
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UDP hash table entries: 2048 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
UDP-Lite hash table entries: 2048 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
NET: Registered protocol family 1
RPC: Registered named UNIX socket transport module.
RPC: Registered udp transport module.
RPC: Registered tcp transport module.
RPC: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 backchannel transport module.
pci 0000:00:1a.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
pci 0000:00:1a.0: PCI INT A disabled
pci 0000:00:1d.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
pci 0000:00:1d.0: PCI INT A disabled
PCI-DMA: Using software bounce buffering for IO (SWIOTLB)
Placing 64MB software IO TLB between ffff8800bb2a5000 - ffff8800bf2a5000
software IO TLB at phys 0xbb2a5000 - 0xbf2a5000

So, somewhere here is the problem
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RPC: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 backchannel transport module.
pci 0000:00:1a.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by harryhaller (Post 5115584)
You should also try booting without the "nomodeset" parameter, since it was acpi which was causing the problems up to that point in the boot process.

so what parameters should i give if nomodeset is removed then should i give only acpi parameter...
but i have one bigger query that if i forcefully stop the packages which are meant to load during boot since they are causing any trouble problem, will those packages not cause any problem after installations

dragonprasad 02-11-2014 10:08 PM

harryhaller after seeing that i am not able to boot directly to my laptop and while checking it on vmware it was working. So can i use Slackware on vmware to build LFS & BLFS?

dragonprasad 02-12-2014 02:24 AM

i have checked the DVD's on my desktop and they are working fine.....
so why are not they working on my laptop....

harryhaller 02-12-2014 03:19 AM

I have googled the net to see if there is anything special about your laptop, but I can't find much about it.

There seems to be some fundamental incompatability, which vmware is hiding - it's probably something small - but we do not know what it is!

I, too, am thinking about using LFS so I would recommend what I would do - and also what some others have recommended: make a knoppix live cd and install LFS from that.

If you install LFS from vmware it brings another layer of complication into any problem solving you have to do when generating LFS.

It is however very strange that 14.1 won't install on your laptop. I was hoping that someone else would have read this thread and suggested a solution, because with regards to Slackware, I can only suggest playing with all the boot parameters that are mentioned in that link above.

With regard to LFS, I'd suggest using knoppix or some other distro - you could also try another Slackware based distro such as Vectorlinux, Salix and others which you can find on distrowatch

It would be interesting to see whether they can install.

Also - you could try installing an earlier version of Slackware such as 14.0.

harryhaller 02-12-2014 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonprasad (Post 5116031)
i have checked the DVD's on my desktop and they are working fine.....
so why are not they working on my laptop....

I don't think the problem has anything to do with your dvds - I think the problem is a hardware compatibility problem with your Levono and that vmware has "masked" this problem.

What we need to do is to get any linux to install on your laptop and then look at the log files to see what differences they show.

Up until now, I have always used second hand pcs (I now have a new one). Interestingly I found that Debian was best at "interrogating" the machine - do you want to try installing debian on your laptop? - it's not a nice distro to work with, but it would be interesting to read the logs and see what it discovered when booting.

If debian can't install, then we will know that your levono is not linux compatible - something which I doubt though.

dragonprasad 02-12-2014 05:12 AM

Thanks harryhaller for your support.
first of all i am building LFS for my college project. I have very less time approximately 3 weeks to finish it.
secondly i have tried installing ubuntu on laptop and it worked very well. but i read some where that Slackware is best for building LFS, so i chose it. and formatted it.
Seeing the problem in booting 14.1 i have downloaded both Ubuntu and Slackware 14.0 for checking whether they get install or not.
Or it would be more kind of you and helpful for me if you suggest me some other Linux distro which will work well to develop LFS.
please i have very less time with me.....

harryhaller 02-12-2014 07:09 AM

Slackware is probably recommended for the same reasons that you should NOT use vmware: Slackware avoids patching programs as much as possible, thus of all the distros, the programs in Slackware are more likely to be "vanilla" - i.e. exactly as the original programmers wrote them up stream. As you can imagine, this is very important when debugging a problem while building LFS.

By contrast, Debian programs are heavily patched, so that if you had a problem with one, the original programmers would be reluctant to help you, as the programs have been patched and they would refer you to Debian.

Having said that, we must not forget that the distro you use is only important in the beginning phase of LFS - although it is the most important stage - when you are building LFS' own tool chain - once it has its own compiler, etc, LFS uses its own stuff. In other words there comes a point when you will boot into LFS itself and continue work using LFS.

I can't recommend anything I haven't tried and with regard to LFS I can only repeat what LFS says or what other LFS posters have said: "What a slacker learned from building Linux from Scratch... ".

Try installing an earlier version of slackware and the matching LFS.

Otherwise just follow LFS' recommendations:
Host System Requirements
How to Build an LFS System

You don't have much time left.

dragonprasad 02-12-2014 07:32 AM

ok
i will keep all this in mind...

dragonprasad 02-13-2014 12:09 PM

harryhaller
i have tried other DVD's also they also din't work....
with Slackware 14.0 it again stuck at the same point.
and when tried with Ubuntu 13.10 it didn't run at all.....
but when i inserted Ubuntu 13.4 it installed properly.......
so i came with conclusion that their is some problem with my laptop only but can any one suggest me where it can be...
since my laptop is still in warranty but the company does not support Linux installations, if any one can tell me what hardware part is faulty then i can get that part exchange by hook or crook....
please help me.....

dragonprasad 02-16-2014 11:44 AM

still the versions are not installing on the laptop any body can help me.....

enorbet 02-25-2014 09:14 AM

I see I'm a bit late to the game but I have to ask, considering how new this laptop is, how you have bios set? It is most likely a UEFI type and therefore not only can step down to legacy bios compatibility (preferred by most) but also you may have to contend with SecureBoot. See Here
Here is a short quote -

Quote:

Originally Posted by uefi wiki
In 2011, Microsoft announced that computers certified to run its Windows 8 operating system had to ship with secure boot enabled using a Microsoft private key. Following the announcement, the company was accused by critics and free software/open source advocates (including the Free Software Foundation) of trying to use the secure boot functionality of UEFI to hinder or outright prevent the installation of alternative operating systems such as Linux. Microsoft denied that the secure boot requirement was intended to serve as a form of lock-in, and clarified its requirements by stating that systems certified for Windows 8 must allow secure boot to enter custom mode or be disabled, but not on systems using the ARM architecture.

This seems the most likely reason for such failures to complete. See if this is what you're dealing with, fix it and your good to go.

dragonprasad 03-02-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 5124359)
I have to ask, considering how new this laptop is

i bought june 2013

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, how you have bios set?
yes you are right about it. It is UEFI type.


But my question is that my laptop is able to install Ubuntu 13.04 and i am using it. But when i am going for Ubuntu 13.10 and Slackware 14.1 or Slackware 14.0 it is not allowing.
So where is the problem. If problem is in hardware then i have chance of getting it repaired or replaced through company or i am only doing some thing wrong or i am missing some thing.....


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