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Old 03-19-2013, 10:06 PM   #1
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Going to give slack a try


Over the years I've been systematically going through distros, trying to find the one for me. So far Gentoo is way ahead of the others, however I'm sick of having package manager issues every time I compile something myself. I figured the best way to circumvent this is to go to a package manager that doesn't handle dependencies. It will probably be a learning experience as well.

I tried it once before and had issues getting the right install.
Basically, I'm looking for a base install with net-tools and gcc, and some basic libraries. Can anyone recommend which packages I should choose? Last time I tried to install A,D,F,K,L,N.
but I ended up without a compiler or net-tools.
 
Old 03-20-2013, 03:05 PM   #2
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I'm a relative Slackware newbie, but it seems you should have had those with A, D, and N.
 
Old 03-20-2013, 03:09 PM   #3
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slackware is cool, cant help with the install though, as for ease of use and being a head ot the pack mint is my favorite though, i have managed to switch my mom brother and gramma off windoze with it. just my 2c
 
Old 03-20-2013, 06:01 PM   #4
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slackware is cool, cant help with the install though, as for ease of use and being a head ot the pack mint is my favorite though, i have managed to switch my mom brother and gramma off windoze with it. just my 2c
I don't think he mentioned anything about ease-of-use, which probably isn't a high priority if he's coming from Gentoo. His primary criteria seems to be "a package manager that doesn't handle dependencies," which certainly fits the bill with Slackware. Linux Mint/Ubuntu/Debian all handle dependencies automatically (apt-get/aptitude).

I do like Linux Mint Debian Edition. The Ubuntu derived versions... not so much.
 
Old 03-20-2013, 06:26 PM   #5
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For the beginning I would strongly recommend to make a full installation of Slackware, until you are comfortable with the system. May be somewhat weird when coming from distros where you start with basic installs and build up, but it actually makes sense.
All available third-party software, be it from AlienBob or from SlackBuilds.org, assumes that you have a full installation of Slackware and therefore only the needed dependencies that are not part of Slackware are mentioned usually. It can be quite cumbersome to get that software running/compiling on a system that lacks packages.

If you had problems with package management in your previous distros I recommend to read about the package management tools in the Slackbook, especially makepkg will come in quite handy when you install software from source without using a SlackBuild script or tools like src2pkg.

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Old 03-20-2013, 08:13 PM   #6
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Full install is good if don't know what to not install. I did that mistake and kde did not start. I did full install then removed many of packages, looks like ksecrets disappeared after second reboot...
 
Old 03-20-2013, 09:47 PM   #7
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I also recommend a full install and unless you have a very compelling reason, I don't see the need of trimming down the installation afterwards. Disk space is cheap nowadays and unused packages/programs do not hinder your performance in any way (well unless they make your disk 99% full)
 
Old 03-20-2013, 09:55 PM   #8
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I usually do an install of Xfce, and no other DEs or WMs: no KDE, fluxbox, blackbox, fvwm, etc., but everything else I keep (emacs, compilers, net tools, etc.). I've pretty much quit using all heavyweight DEs on my aging hardware, in favor of Xfce, LXDE, or just Openbox.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 08:39 AM   #9
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I agree with the above that for your first install, just do a full install. You can narrow it down later anyway.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 10:17 AM   #10
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If I don't won't X, I usually install the same plus Ap
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Last time I tried to install A,D,F,K,L,N
What you was missing was probably in Ap.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 11:27 AM   #11
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If you install everything you won't have any problems (unless you really are short on disk space). Unlike some distros Slackware does not just activate every daemon for every package you install.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 12:51 PM   #12
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Moved: This thread is more suitable in Slackware - Installation and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 02:22 PM   #13
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I agree with the previous posts. For a first install I would go with a full install as it will work out of the box with all dependencies met. As you're a Gentoo user you will be able to find your way around very well indeed. After you're up and running you can trim back your install and remove unwanted packages as needed. For third party software you can check out the links in my signature. Robby and Eric host trusted software. Also check out the slackbuild scripts hosted by the good people at slackbuilds.org. Have fun!
 
Old 03-21-2013, 07:11 PM   #14
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So I did it. I installed most of it. I didn't install the games or any of the WM's or Desktop environments since I wanted to run openbox. However I did install the X server just to speed things up.
So far I like it a lot. The slack builds are quite easy to work with, even easier to modify than e-builds (gentoo).
 
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:53 PM   #15
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Cool. Did you find all the other tools you were looking for? I'm loving slackbuilds, too. Makes more sense to me than anything else, really.
 
  


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