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jeremy 11-21-2013 02:58 PM

Welcome to the Slackware - ARM forum
 
At the request of drmozes (and blessed by Patrick) we've created a forum for Slackware on ARM.

--jeremy

niels.horn 11-21-2013 04:26 PM

Yay!
Good idea to have all Slackware-* discussions in one place.

dowelld 11-21-2013 06:56 PM

I can't say I'm a fan of the forum format, IMHO and experience it just gives people the chance to get nasty and personal, but I guess this is where it's going to be now.

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Linux.tar.gz 11-22-2013 05:54 AM

Slackware ARM on LQ, such a great thing !

Exaga 11-22-2013 03:45 PM

Thanks Jeremy and thanks mozes. Very cool for Slackware ARM specifics. :cool:

I like it!

spudgunner 11-22-2013 03:52 PM

Couldn't have come at a better time... I was about to post my first ARM topic!

Darth Vader 12-05-2013 04:06 AM

Congratulation for the new (sub-)forum, dedicated entirely for the Slackware on the nobble ARM platform!

And, I have a (maybe a stupid) question.

This sub-forum is dedicated entirely for the Official Slackware ARM, aka Dr. Mozes's Slackware ARM, or there is room also for another Slackware(-based) ARM ports, i.e. the AlienBOB's Slackware ARM or whatever Slackware ARM port/build?

drmozes 12-05-2013 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vader (Post 5075832)
This sub-forum is dedicated entirely for the Official Slackware ARM, aka Dr. Mozes's Slackware ARM, or there is room also for another Slackware(-based) ARM ports, i.e. the AlienBOB's Slackware ARM or whatever Slackware ARM port/build?

That's a very good question: here are my thoughts

Since Slackware does not have a hardware floating point ARM port, when AlienBOB's port is progressing and released, I don't see any reason why it also could not be an official port if he wanted it to be - so it'd be good to have threads related to his work in here as well, unless he wants them to be elsewhere.

Regarding other derivative works - I'd be less willing to 'cross polinate' the efforts: solely because people already don't read documentation (not that this is anything new - I've made good money through that in other areas of life ;-) ) and tarnish the Slackware brand with FUD and total nonsense. Given that derived works (or independent Slackware-based works) are not 'Slackware' (approved by Patrick), I don't feel that they belong in the 'Slackware ARM' forum and would prefer them to be elsewhere.

Darth Vader 12-05-2013 09:42 AM

Thank you for quick response, and now I have a question about what you call derivative works under (Slackware) ARM.

Like you know, the ARM platforms requires a special treatment. Most of devices, even they are very common, i.e. consumer devices, like netbooks or mini-pcs, require special compiled kernels, with special patches, even special toolchains (to build the kernel) and special user-land support, including tools and configuration. For example, from what I known, one of the most complete (but non-standard) ports of Slackware ARM, including even the accelerated graphics, can be done under the Rockchip RK3066/3188 devices.

Still, even the operating system, sine-die, is right the Slackware ARM, the named Rockchip RK3066 port will present specific quirks and problems, even specific packages.

The question is, there is room also, for the threads and problems strictly specific of a ... lets call it ... "community supported" device?

drmozes 12-06-2013 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vader (Post 5076037)
The question is, there is room also, for the threads and problems strictly specific of a ... lets call it ... "community supported" device?

I have updated this page, which should answer this:


http://arm.slackware.com/supportedpl...rted-platforms

Darth Vader 12-06-2013 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by drmozes (Post 5076382)
I have updated this page, which should answer this:


http://arm.slackware.com/supportedpl...rted-platforms

Thank you for the well done details!

But, that page talks about that there are acceptable just the modified packages (also the specific minirootfs and kernels), for the named port to be considered a "community supported device"...

Still, yet, for a successful port to an RK3066 device, for example, to have a complete experience, require integration of some new packages, for MALI graphics support, etc. I.e. xfree86-video-mali, or even better, xfree86-video-rk30fb, also, maybe, of even the proprietary MALI's OpenGLES libraries.

The question is, even after the inclusion of a relative small number of device specific packages, that Slackware ARM port is qualified as "community supported device"?

drmozes 12-06-2013 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vader (Post 5076405)
Thank you for the well done details!

But, that page talks about that there are acceptable just the modified packages (also the specific minirootfs and kernels), for the named port to be considered a "community supported device"...

I don't consider adding some packages or kernels a 'port' as it doesn't fit into the meaning of that definition. For example, I don't say I've now 'ported' Slackware to the ARM Versatile platform - I just added 'support'.

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Originally Posted by Darth Vader (Post 5076405)
packages, for MALI graphics support, etc. I.e. xfree86-video-mali, or even better, xfree86-video-rk30fb, also, maybe, of even the proprietary MALI's OpenGLES libraries.

The OpenGLES libraries are included in Mesa though aren't they? They would not be proprietary though.
If you were including proprietary libraries, you'd need to ensure that you obtained the agreement with the owner of them to ship them, and you should also include an adjustment/new copyright notice - see 'COPYRIGHT.TXT' in the root dir.

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Originally Posted by Darth Vader (Post 5076405)
The question is, even after the inclusion of a relative small number of device specific packages, that Slackware ARM port is qualified as "community supported device"?

Ah yes - that's a good point: I have updated the page.


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