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View Poll Results: What is your favourite DE
KDE 75 43.86%
XFCE 52 30.41%
fluxbox 21 12.28%
blackbox 0 0%
fvwm2 9 5.26%
twm 2 1.17%
wmaker 3 1.75%
Gnome Mate 5 2.92%
Gnome2 1 0.58%
Gnome3 3 1.75%
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:45 PM   #61
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i3wm, but it is not listed in the poll
i3 is a window manager and should not be present in a DE poll
 
Old 06-17-2013, 02:06 PM   #62
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i3 is a window manager and should not be present in a DE poll
The list includes both window managers and desktop environments.

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Old 06-17-2013, 02:21 PM   #63
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The list includes both window managers and desktop environments.

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... and it shouldn't if one asks about desktop environments.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 02:52 PM   #64
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... and it shouldn't if one asks about desktop environments.
I thought it was clear reading the list that the OP was using DE in a casual rather than a precise sense.

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Old 06-17-2013, 03:26 PM   #65
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I thought it was clear reading the list that the OP was using DE in a casual rather than a precise sense.

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Yes, it is clear to most people here. It might, however, not be as clear to some members/visitors who do not know the distinction between the two leading to some unnecessary misconceptions. Obviously, it may not be an important thing, just thought it's worth pointing it out for the benefit of new linux users who might be reading this thread. Besides, the site's major aim, I assume, is to provide clear and factual information on relevant subjects. Ignoring confusing things in the posts might not be helping. Anyway, no big deal. Let us move on.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 03:43 PM   #66
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i3 is a window manager and should not be present in a DE poll
hm so these are DEs? maybe in a parallel reality

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Old 06-17-2013, 05:20 PM   #67
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hm so these are DEs? maybe in a parallel reality

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Who said they were?
 
Old 06-18-2013, 12:48 AM   #68
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I'm using Fluxbox since the first days with Slackware. In the past (Suse 7.3) I was a KDE user.
 
Old 06-18-2013, 01:43 AM   #69
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I use KDE. I like it, so I don't know what else to say.
 
Old 06-18-2013, 02:28 AM   #70
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KDE has been my favorite desktop environment for years. But I don't love it very much anymore. Dare I say it? KDE has become a pig of incomprehensible girth. If you have a quad-core system with 8GB or more RAM, you may not very often notice where all your resources are being consumed. Yet woe unto those with a paltry 4GB RAM and a piddly old duo-core CPU ... you will know great pain at the hand of Nepomuk/Akonadi/Kontact/Virtuoso. They will eat your lunch.

I long for the days when KDE was just a great desktop. I prefer an asocial desktop without any semantics.
 
Old 06-18-2013, 07:34 AM   #71
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KDE has been my favorite desktop environment for years. But I don't love it very much anymore. Dare I say it? KDE has become a pig of incomprehensible girth. If you have a quad-core system with 8GB or more RAM, you may not very often notice where all your resources are being consumed. Yet woe unto those with a paltry 4GB RAM and a piddly old duo-core CPU ... you will know great pain at the hand of Nepomuk/Akonadi/Kontact/Virtuoso. They will eat your lunch.

I long for the days when KDE was just a great desktop. I prefer an asocial desktop without any semantics.
You could look into the trinity desktop environment project. There are one or two "kde" programs I like, one of which is korganizer. In 14.0 korganizer is intolerable (only a core i7 M 620 with 8 GB in my laptop :-), so I compiled TDE and use the korganizer from there. There is a new release due out "real soon now", you might want to take a look at that.
 
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Old 07-17-2013, 04:33 AM   #72
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Angry

No i3 ---- >
 
Old 07-17-2013, 08:29 AM   #73
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I tried them all, but at the end of the day I always fall back on fluxbox.
Same here.
 
Old 07-17-2013, 12:12 PM   #74
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cwm. Getting finger memory on this one so I'm unlikely to change for a long time.

Thanks btw to the person in this forum who pointed out the Arch user who ported it from OpenBSD. It looks like it was mostly only a matter of changing BSD's makefile to a GNU one, but still, saved me some time.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 09:55 PM   #75
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I've been using fvwm2 since some time in the 1990's.

There is a bug which causes focus problems with Java GUIs, which at least one of the fvwm2 developers vehemently claims is a bug in Java, and thus will not be fixed in fvwm2. (The developer claims other WMs have work-around.) Since I (grudgingly) have to occasionally use a couple of Java GUIs, I started looking around for another window manager.

For better or worse, I was not able to find any other window manager which had the configurability and flexibility of fvwm2. Some of the others no doubt work well if you like their "standard" configuration with only minor tweaks. And a lot of other WMs seem to have an amazing amount of bloat for what they give you. I can only assume that people are attracted to some of these other WMs because their default setups have lots of eye candy.

I have the feeling that if the default fvwm2 config didn't look so boring, it would be an order of magnitude more popular than it is now. But perhaps the developers are not interested in developing a user base that values eye candy more than functionality.

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I couldn't agree more. I've been using FVWM since 1996 (on Sun SparcStation 2).

Regarding Java: it's Java programs that use the Swing toolkit that cause problems. Java programs that use the SWT toolkit work beautifully with FVWM.
 
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