xmms is very much not in development anymore. Their last stable version was released 4 years ago, and cvs development stopped not long after that. xmms had a slight problem of an poorly designed codebase, which is why so many forks were released (such as the Beep Media Player (now extinct), which itself spawned Youki (also dead), BMPx (dead as well) and Audacious).

Personally, I like Audacious. It handles my library well (and is the best player I've found for my SNES music) and it's lightweight. xmms is still nice to use now and again, but I always feel a bit nervous using a dead program.

me too.
audacious is a good alternative.

Have you tried Clementine as a replacement of Amarok 1.4?

I liked Clementine a lot but after some upgrades towards Slackware-14 I couldn't get it to work any longer. It segfaults immediately upon start up (bug report here). I never got it fixed but have since switched to i3 tiling window manager so I now prefer to keep-it-simple™ and use moc.

I also use xmms. It works. All I want is a player that plays my mp3s and gives me an equaliser and the ability to create playlists. It may not have had any development for 4 years but it still works. I might give audacious and vlc a try as well.

At the time I tried it, Clementine has few annoying bugs (can't remember what exactly) and cannot play audio CD. I'm compiling it right now to see how far they got, but I'm already hooked to MPD with my music "server" and xmms or VLC for local playback. But maybe I'll keep Clementine around, just in case.

I'm curious to hear if it segfaults on you as well. I have the problem on two separate pc's (both -current).

I didn't run -current back then and as far as I remember, Clementine haven't crashed. Those bugs were rather missing functionality, like menu entries which didn't do anything (just popped up some generic error message). Maybe it was due to early development state or something similar.

So far Clementine won't compile on -current (Slack 14 RC 4), maybe it will with RC 5.

Clementine needs to be patched in order to compile with the current liblastfm. See here
http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/ca...pathrev=277765

I have attached the patch in case you care to try it.

Attached Files

liblastfm-1.0.txt (15.6 KB, 5 views)

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i use Clementine to organise my music library and keep xmms just in case
the gtk1 used to bother me, but not anymore since i install the gtk1 industrial engine

Thanks! I can finally give it a try.

I went to audacious a long time ago and I love it (playing some Tchaikovsky on it ATM). It's written for modern systems while still being xmms-style simple, and I can keep using my favorite winamp2 skin. Yes, it has occasionally suffered from bugs and regressions, but for the most part it seems to have stabilized, in my experience. Even when a bug does appear it just generally only means I have to hold back on upgrading until it gets resolved.


@Ilgar: Audacious includes several plugins for defining various keyboard shortcuts, as well as the audtool command-line controller for interfacing with a running instance.


Incidentally, check out qmmp for a qt-based player that's almost identical to audacious:

http://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/index_en.php

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I used xmms for a long time and like it's design for the playlist, the way it uses a format string that you can customize any way you want. It also handles huge playlists very well. I never really liked the way the xmms gui looked, but since it worked well I didn't mind it too much. Something xmms lacks is multiple tabbed playlists unless it is some hidden feature I never found.

I also used for a long time, foobar2000 under wine. It's a really great windows music player and has some of the best features for writing the tags on the files. I still use fb2k for tagging. I think the sound quality of playback thru wine can have some issues that degrade the quality, so I stopped using it as a player. But, if the sound is okay, it is a great player with extremely good GUI design with multiple tabbed playlists and perfect tag writer.

Now audacious has a blend of features like xmms and foobar2000, but I do not use it to tag (I think it can but have not looked at that feature). It has multiple tabbed playlists The playlist can use a custom string like xmms and foobar2000 can. Now, for sound quality, audacious has a great plugin that makes it my preferred player: output->effects->sample rate converter (method: best sinc interpolation) to rate: 48000 Hz because that is the rate my S/PDIF-connected equipment is designed for. So, with this setting, I get very high quality high frequencies and stereo image of fine details, where I have my equipment configured for a direct full-level signal with no biases/equalization changes on any frequencies straight to the amplifier and speakers. On a pc, I've had lots of software and equipment bugs trying to get good sound, but it is not bad now.

Thanks for the information, David. I gave it a try. audtool is OK but unfortunately audacious refused to play many of my mp3's with the error "snd_pcm_hw_params_set_rate failed: Invalid argument" (my computer is an EEEPC with an ICH 7 Intel chip). And in the majority of the ones that it could play, it was unable to seek (this is version 2.4.4). I'd like to retry with the newer version in 14.0, but the current situation is very disappointing.

I have an older PC that I wanted a light-weight music player, that could handle a library with a few thousand songs. The solution I settled on was MPD (music player daemon) and the Sonata client for it. No bloat, and it handles my huge collection without any performance cost.

OK, I played around quite a lot on a few machines, and I think I have a winner: Audacious 3.2.4, the "legacy" version for GTK2, which runs very nice on Slackware 13.37 (Audacious 3.3.x needs GTK3 to build).

There are some significant improvements over the 2.x version I tried a long time ago. Especially handling playlists is much improved. I can now export an M3U playlist and simply hand it over to Brasero without any hiccup.

Tried various formats (audio CD, MP3, OGG, WMA, WAV, FLAC, MPC) and everything is handled OK.

Plus, it fits nice into Xfce.

Conclusion: a highly recommendable GTK audio player.