XFCE rules!!! only prob with yaWP...
 

Hello!
Some time ago i "open for me" XFCE window manager -it is be easy, small resources consumption - and a giant plus - it have all KDE apps on it!
Firs time i set it on wifes eeepc 1000 netbook ( atom 1.6, 2Gb, 10"), after a wifes howling about "it is soo slow, after you change OS from slackware 12.2 with KDE 3.5 to 14.0 with KDE 4.3" - and really, KDE eats a lot of resources. i experiment with window managers, and switch it to XFCE, and be impressed. after some time i make reinstall on my old netbook too - eeepc 900, celeron 900 mhz, 1 Gb RAM - there i have slackware 13.1 with kde 4.x, and no xfce option. reinstall it with slack 14.0 x32, and set up xfce, and be happy - after start ir eats only ~120 - 150 Mb RAM, and looks significantly faster, than KDE.

Only my problem is yaWP - very good weather prediction applet for KDE.
i want it on XFCE. maybe anyone know, what to do that?

I don't think you can run a kde plasmoid outside of kde.

You could set up something like conky to provide weather predictions on your XFCE desktop though. There's a fair bit of info out there for conky setups.

There is a weather plug-in for Xfce including in the standard installation of Slackware 14 IMHO,it is better than the KDE weather LCD (easier to see) and far more accurate, at least for my part of the world.

yes, i see it, but it have a problem with finding your place ( he finds endless and not find anything), and anyway yaWP is far better, imho :)

Yes, XFCE rules. It should be the default desktop for all linux distributions.

Weather plugin - Xfce
 

Here's an example of the weather plugin in use, both on the top panel, and as a stand-alone panel on it's own, like a desktop applet:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...8/#post4918469

I've really come to this conclusion, too. I used to be a Gnome 2 fan, but Gnome has gone to hell. I like KDE, but it's just too damn much. LXDE is very nice, but not as much as Xfce. Xfce is the perfect mix of aesthetics, configurability, speed, and modularity.

XFCE is a general usage multifunctional designed desktop which oddly has roots in CDE. It can be customized and modified to be a full GNOME, KDE, or CDE replacement, and can even be further modified to resemble Windows Desktop to help with user transition and familiarization into the Linux environment.

That's why it's sooooooo nice.

I will have to respectfully disagree.
XFCE is ok but it's far from even good by my rather modest criteria.
I could list an endless list of things that are wrong with XFCE.
Even basic features like dragging an icon from Applications Menu to the desktop is missing.
And it's dependencies on many Gnome components are another huge minus.
I use it, have been since KDE 3.x has been replaced by the dreadful KDE 4.x.
But the only reason I use it is because it's the "least evil" out of the 3 desktop environments.
However when I have a bit of time I'll give that fork of KDE 3.X a try as I'm really getting fed up with XFCE and also it's slow development.

Dependencies on KDE-Libs and Gnome-libs are becoming more commonplace even with LXDE and XFCE, and even other general usage desktop environments.

Argue this point all you want as being bad, but these libraries like gnome-libs, and not the actual parent project of Gnome, are being used not only by XFCE but other software packages for various functionality purposes like printing, overlays, drawing methods, icon placement, and even networking in some cases.

The old term of "necessary evil" comes to mind. However, within Linux there are many necessary evils, namely a big one.

SystemD is a prime example of unwanted evil. Need we dig that topic back up, I think not, but we still require part of it, uDev, as a necessary evil for Linux to be functional.

By comparison, XFCE using gnome-libs and LXDE using kde-libs is far from the fore-mentioned level of evil.

No we don't require Udev!
Saying it's required is just plain wrong.
Linux was just fine before Udev.
I would even argue that it was a far more reliable and stable system than it is now.
I first tried Linux around 1993 and still have the CD set of Slackware 3.3
And I started using it full-time since around 1998 (Mandrake and then couple years later Slackware and ever since) and once set up it was far more stable than it is now.
The DE developers nowadays are simply destroying Linux. They are driving away power users and not really attracting any Windows converts.
Nowadays I've adopted a strict policy of not using any DE dependent applications.
And I've been jumping to Windows 7 more and more, especially for video editing and multimedia stuff as Linux has almost nothing to offer there.
I used have Slackware on my laptop but now I don't bother and it's Windows 7.
It's a sad state Linux is in these days, and Slackware is becoming a victim of it all too.
Sorry about the rant.

Here's how you can drag an icon from the applications menu to the panel launcher. This is a video I actually made on my own desktop, running Slackware64 14.0.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pao006MDyug

Normally, Xfce doesn't have any GNOME dependencies. I only beef it up with a few extra applications that really only need a handful of GNOME libs.

My Slackware+Xfce based MLED (Microlinux Enterprise Desktop) is currently being overhauled and migrated to Github. Should be ready in a few days. Here's a link to the work in progress (don't use it yet, things might not work).

https://github.com/kikinovak/desktop

Cheers,

Niki

Ok, thanks.
But I don't have any panel launcher.
And I meant drag from the Applications Menu to the Desktop area like I could do it in KDE 3.X.

If you have Xfce installed, then you do have a panel. Or two. Or as many as you want. Just poke around a bit.

My own launcher is a stock Xfce launcher that uses transparency. There's no AWN or Docky or some other third-party launcher involved.

I just tried simply dragging an application from the Applications menu to the desktop, and it works without problems.

Hello Niki :)
If you want your icon text background to be transparent put this code into ~/.gtkrc-2.0

i partly agree with Slackovado - linux become more and more windows - like, and also unstable too, than inmore early days. i personally very like slackware 12.2 - it have very functional KDE 3.5, but even on that times i see tendency to get a fat.
also, i use slackware - on my desktop, and on my netbook.
despite of all i says, windows is in any case, worse choice as an linux in my oppinion - it lack many comfortable things, like as copy - paste with one button in linux ( mark with left mouse button, then paste marked with middle mouse button - win always must be ctrl-c / ctrl-v or choice in meny on right click), it be more resource hang, and there be a lots of viruses, and other bad sides.

PS. i found, default web browser in XFCE - Mozilla - is too very resource eating monster. try install opera, and it was significantly better, faster ( because on my netbook is very weak cpu - celeron 900 single core, no ht), i see big difference between that both. maybe there is also better browser? can anyone write in slackware docs article about configure a maximally effective, resource friendly desktop?
i also turn out webbrowser flash plugin, who too is very resource eating thing in nowadays www....

very strange. i do that easy by default - open via start -> necessary app, and drag and put it in desktop. it works easy in default on my slack14 x32 xfce4.10 ...

It's really good apart from one thing - windows tear (have done for years) with the nVidia blob. Does anyone know how to stop this or is it just a 'feature'?

Thanks for the hint. Except I don't really want transparent icon text background, because it tends to be illegible with some wallpapers.

You're right. It does work now.
Not sure when I had found that feature not working, maybe it was in Slackware 13.37
But still can't right click on a launcher and display properties in the Application Menu.

Yes, I do have a panel. Yours looked a bit different. I jus use one panel for everything, kind of like Task Bar in Windows.

The decision to go to uDev wasn't made by the distributions, it was made by the Linux developers because it was a more fluid system to move hardware devices in and out of the system on the fly. Hotplug, devfs/devtmpfs, and hal were decrepated because they because they were at their limits of development and to improve on them would require an entire re-write of their system functions from the ground up.

The problem with uDev was the uDev developers were enticed by Red Hat and Lennart to add uDev as a part of systemd without giving systemd a full work-up and evaluation before they decided to see if it was worth the venture. To this date many distributions still will not include systemd, but all of them use uDev through the kernel. LFS, Slackware, and Ubuntu still use their own INIT systems like upstart, bsdinit, and sysvinit. Since then a fork of udev has been made to segregate it from systemd again, but many distributions still use the extracted and isolated udev toolkit from systemd.

There have been no plans to revive hotplug, devfs/devtmpfs, and hal as far as I know, though BSD based systems still use something similar to them, but proprietary to BSD I believe.

If KDE and Gnome wish to poison themselves with systemd then let them, and the same goes for all the other distributions who allowed themselves to be suckered in. Gnome already has, but KDE has been rather reluctant, and the same goes with XFCE though it does use portions of upower and udisks for device management purposes.

We need to have some sort of familiarity with Windows to make migrations easier, but yes, we do need to keep GNU/Linux as a UNIX faithful OS and kernel.

I don't use the XFCE panel (nor the applications menu), but in my Slackware 14 box running the XFCE desktop I always use the Application Finder to do this. I run "xfce4-appfinder", click on the "toggle view mode" icon (down arrow), select the icon I want and simply drag it to the desktop. Works as expected.