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Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib" and KDE4Town.
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XFCE 4.8 is much heavier than 4.6.2?
One of the things I like the most in XFCE is the consume of memory. Or the lack of memory consumption
Well, with Xfce 4.8 you are running Gnome Keyring PKC #11, Gnome Keyring GPG Agent, Gnome Keyring SSH, Gnome Keyring Secret Service along with Policy Kit. IIRC, Policy Kit was running in 4.62.
So, using Gkellm, Xfce 4.8 is using 191 megs of RAM to run my basic desktop withOUT three of my favorite plug-ins that refuse to run in 4.8. Add those in and I would guesstimate it would be using around 210 megs.
In Xfce 4.62 it took about 150 megs to run my basic desktop.
I rebooted and ran kde 4.5.95 and, again, using Gkellm to measure, it was using 247 megs to run the same basic desktop configuration. *Note, this is running kde withOUT the Evil Triplets.
BTW, the fonts look MUCH better in Xfce (even before 4.8) than they do in kde, for whatever reason.
Last edited by cwizardone; 01-18-2011 at 11:44 AM.
Reason: *Note, this is running kde withOUT the Evil Triplets.
Well, with Xfce 4.8 you are running Gnome Keyring PKC #11, Gnome Keyring GPG Agent, Gnome Keyring SSH, Gnome Keyring Secret Service along with Policy Kit. IIRC, Policy Kit was running in 4.62.
So, using Gkellm, Xfce 4.8 is using 191 megs of RAM to run my basic desktop withOUT three of my favorite plug-ins that refuse to run in 4.8. Add those in and I would guesstimate it would be using around 210 megs.
In Xfce 4.62 it took about 150 megs to run my basic desktop.
I rebooted and ran kde 4.5.95 and, again, using Gkellm to measure, it was using 247 megs to run the same basic desktop configuration. *Note, this is running kde withOUT the Evil Triplets.
BTW, the fonts look MUCH better in Xfce (even before 4.8) than they do in kde, for whatever reason.
Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib" and KDE4Town.
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And Why is now necessary all this gnome stuff?
Not really sure. I've read somewhere it was necessary to bring Xfce up-to-date with other 'modern' desktop environments.
BTW, besides the things mentioned earlier, Xfce 4.8 also runs vdisks, upowerd, Gcontd, Gnome-pty-helper and console-kit-daemon. Console kit might have also been running in 4.6x.
Not really sure. I've read somewhere it was necessary to bring Xfce up-to-date with other 'modern' desktop environments.
BTW, besides the things mentioned earlier, Xfce 4.8 also runs vdisks, upowerd, Gcontd, Gnome-pty-helper and console-kit-daemon. Console kit might have also been running in 4.6x.
Some of them I understand, now Thunar supports SAMBA, etc... and removing HAL from the equations need stuff like upower and etc.
Have someone tried turn off Hall to see the impact in the new XFCE?
Have someone tried turn off Hall to see the impact in the new XFCE?
Yeah, it seems unaffected.
It's been some time, and I can't seem to find anything affected by hald not running anymore. I chmodded /etc/rc.d/rc.hald to 644 before the last reboot, and all's been well.
It's been some time, and I can't seem to find anything affected by hald not running anymore. I chmodded /etc/rc.d/rc.modules to 644 before the last reboot, and all's been well.
Thaks
I read in Phoronix Forums that XFCE 4.8 is actually faster than 4.6.2.
Does anyone feel that?
It's been some time, and I can't seem to find anything affected by hald not running anymore. I chmodded /etc/rc.d/rc.modules to 644 before the last reboot, and all's been well.
Foo, did you mean to write "rc.hald"? by any chance? Or do you really mean rc.modules?
Just curious who all here is running XFCE 4.8 right now? I'm hoping to add it myself since it's not going to accompany the next stable release. With all the new dependencies, possible conflicts and what not, I'm looking for help and advice.
Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib" and KDE4Town.
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...I read in Phoronix Forums that XFCE 4.8 is actually faster than 4.6.2.
Does anyone feel that?
Just the opposite. The desktop is MUCH slower to come up. As to firing up applications it doesn't
appear to be any faster than 4.6.2.
As mentioned before the plug-ins I like don't work, including the volume control. Unlike
some of the others that won't even display on the panel, the speaker icon is there, but it has
no control of any kind on the volume. Yes, I've checked all the switches, etc.
Xfce is my preferred DE, but 4.8 has been very disappointing. I'm getting the impression it
was rushed out to meet their 16 January deadline, but it wasn't really ready. Whatever changes
that were made for the positive are not readily apparent and I don't see any reason to make
the "upgrade." I'll probably go back to 4.62.
Last edited by cwizardone; 01-19-2011 at 09:57 AM.
Just curious who all here is running XFCE 4.8 right now? I'm hoping to add it myself since it's not going to accompany the next stable release. With all the new dependencies, possible conflicts and what not, I'm looking for help and advice.
I have it installed on our laptops. Some of the deps are part of our normal extra software, but not the upower/disks nor avahi. Seems to run pretty well. I really like the new panel options, and the fact you can actually move items on the panel to exactly where you want them. We had a problem with normal users being able to shutdown/reboot/suspend/hibernate using startx from init 3. I didn't dig too far into it, but it appears you must use a console kit aware login manager, or alter the xfce init to properly launch a ck-session. Using XDM caused the same reboot/shutdown ... issues. Once we started using KDM, user privileges were restored.
We've noticed no performance increase nor decrease between 4.6.x and 4.8. The laptops are PIII 850 576MiB, P4-m 1800 512MiB, Atom n455 2GiB.
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