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Old 01-22-2005, 09:54 AM   #1
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xfce 4.2.0 haywire in current


I installed the new xfce 4.2.0 that was packages for slackware 10.0 by linuxpackages.. I myself am running two comps, xeraphin with a pure 10.0 and indigo with current.. Installed on both, works on 10.0 but on current am getting a ton of errors, and most of them arnt making much sense to me..

Yea, I know.. 10.0 package but on current, im asking for trouble.. But, usually theres no problem..

Here are some of the main problems:

- Upon starting, get an error about the panel not neing started properly, and that itll be restarted now.. I click okay and it restarts nicely..
- the rightclick menu doesnt work, nothing pops up
- settings wont open..
- xfce-mcs-manager gives a few errors on startup:
Code:
** (xfce-mcs-manager:24402): WARNING **: Module /usr/lib/xfce4/mcs-plugins/xfcalendar_plugin.so cannot be opened (GModule initialization check failed: Incorrect module version)

** (xfce-mcs-manager:24402): WARNING **:   module /usr/lib/xfce4/mcs-plugins/workspaces_plugin.so ("workspaces") has already been loaded before
and naturally wont start up..
- xfce4-iconbox
_IceTransOpen: Unable to Parse address
** Message: xfce4-iconbox: Using default position
but it starts and works
- xfce4-about is the only one that works with no errors.. (x
- it used to bitch alot about some settings xml.tmp files not being able to write, so I took a look, and it hadnt created properly my .xfce4 directory.. So, I removed it again (lost my old settings when was fooling around a while back.. ( and started xfce again, but no .xfce4/settings/ was created.. Now, I remembered that the old startxfce4 ensured that these existed, the new version doesnt.. I checked.. has the location changed? Anyways, when I created manually the .xfce4/settings/ directory, it sure created a few .xml:s there..


Sooo.. Anyone know whats going on? I allready tried removing the package and reinstalling.. And as said before, the exact same package (even same install file) works nicely on a fresh 10.0
 
Old 01-22-2005, 11:08 AM   #2
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Well, I tried running it as root.. Works perfect.. Copied root´s ~ /.config and ~/.xfce4 to my user and recursively chowned em.. Same probs persist.. Soo.. Something goes awfully wrong in the startup I presume..

And another Q, when an X terminates, it jumps over to the tty8 that it was running on, jamming there.. Aint fun at all.. I have to run a second X remotely there just to keep tty7 usable.. (x Any tips on how I might be able to get rid of the second X without the machine returning to tty8 that seems to jam?
 
Old 01-22-2005, 11:13 AM   #3
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i only have a little experience with xfce-4.2 using both compiled sourcecode and OS-cillation's binary installer, and was disappointed in both, i am going to try Jim's build of it that is available from LinuxPackages.net, if i do not like it i will go back to using xfce-4.05 which worked good enough for me, (maybe it is getting to rich in features for my personal taste???)
 
Old 01-22-2005, 04:35 PM   #4
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I compiled xfce 4.2 from source on my Slackware Current system and it runs just fine. Is it possible that a custom compile works better with Current?

I agree, Okie, that xfce is expanding. Version 4.2 is still snappier than KDE and Gnome, but it loads a lot more slowly than plain old version 4 did. Once it's loaded, though, I'm not sure that I see a performance difference between the new xfce and previous versions. Regardless, if you don't like the latest, you can just do as you mentioned and stick with an older release.
 
Old 01-22-2005, 05:14 PM   #5
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yeah, I figured a source compile would work better.. Just dont have the energy to gather it all together.. The linuxpackages pack had it all in one simple install.. too tempting.. (;

Well, Ill compile it tomorrow.. Lightweightness isnt much of an issue with my hardware, but I like it as a vnc desktop, and as a easier to master for the rest of my family.. (; The new features look nice, and the rightclick menu is something ive been missing..
 
Old 01-22-2005, 07:44 PM   #6
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Why not just use the Graphical Installers?

I've been using them from the RC days, and they gave absolutely no problems at all... and I'm on current too.

The only difference I noted between the installer and previous XFce slackpacks is that the installer requires libdbh to be installed, whereas the slackpacks come with libdbh itself. Anyway, libdbh can be obtained here, very easy to compile.

Just my humble opinion.
 
Old 01-22-2005, 10:20 PM   #7
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Why not download the xfce4.20 off the slackware ftp server
Its in the current - dir....
 
Old 01-23-2005, 02:50 AM   #8
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Azmeen, thanks for a great reply.. Ill check those out.. (:

Navaboy, I checked the current when I started my install, but I guess it was added after that.. Tanks for letting me know.. Tho Ill probably install with other means as pats packs dont have all the themes etc etc Im guessing? Ill rather get the whole damn thing with one method than scurry around for bits and pieces.. (:
 
Old 01-23-2005, 03:43 AM   #9
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The installers worked great.. Theres just one thing.. Either they didnt install a startxfce4 of their own, and I was left with the old one even tho I removed the package, or the starter is broken.. How should xfce be started normally, by hand?

[11:33:58] [fyranthalas@indigo] ~# startxfce4 -- :2
/usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0
Agent pid 26484
which: no dbus-launch in (/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/opt/kde/bin:/opt/www/htdig/bin:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/lib/java/jre/bin:/opt/kde/bin:/usr/lib/qt/bin:/usr/share/texmf/bin:.)
xfce4-session: Another session manager is already running
Agent pid 26484 killed

Also theres some weirdness amongst the libs.. Tho ive been having this a while now with several apps..

[11:40:54] [fyranthalas@indigo] ~# xfce4-about
xfce4-about: error while loading shared libraries: libxfcegui4.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

And thats becuse theres only:
libxfcegui4.so libxfcegui4.so.1 libxfcegui4.so.1.0.9

I thought that progs were supposed to be a tas smarter on the libs? (; Well, a symlink fixes the issue, but I sure dont feel right doing that..
 
Old 01-23-2005, 03:54 AM   #10
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Theh.. a tad of ldconfig got the thing going on.. the real libs were in /usr/local/lib/
imho ldconfig is something an installer should run when it finishes.. d:
 
Old 01-23-2005, 04:19 AM   #11
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uhmn.. The plot thickens..
Started wrking on the error concerning dbus-launch missing.. Well, heres trhe section that "needs" it in the xfce xinitrc:
Code:
# Use dbus-launch if installed.
if test x"$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" = x""; then
        dbuslaunch=`which dbus-launch`
        if test x"$dbuslaunch" != x"" -a x"$dbuslaunch" != x"no"; then
                eval `$dbuslaunch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
        fi
fi
It wasnt installed but yet it wanted me to have it.. Well, I took the cavemans road and installed it..
Now all I get is a fresh clean X with absolutely no xfce.. hmm.. (:
 
Old 01-23-2005, 02:29 PM   #12
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I have noticed a number of problems as well since I upgraded to xfce4.2.0. First off, all of my menus under the right mouse button are gone. I know that the configuration files moved to ~/.config/xfce4, so I moved my customized menu "menu2.xml" to ~/.config/xfce4/ and then restarted xfce4.2. When I then right clicked on the desktop, the old xfce4 menu showed up minus some options. When I right clicked again, the menu didn't come up at all. Now I am getting a repeating warning in the console window that XfceDesktopMenu is having an error parsing the xfdesktop menu file on line 66: Entity name "menu2" is not known. Menu2 would be the reference under xfce4.0.2 to menu2.xml in my .xfce4 directory.

I also notice that FireFox's window does not correctly resize LinuxQuestions.org so that it fits into the FireFox window. I have to scroll sideways to read the forums. I didn't have to do that before.

I am running slackware-current updated using swaret. I think I am going to go back to xfce4.0.2
 
Old 01-23-2005, 02:32 PM   #13
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jeh, my thoughts exactly.. Finaly got bored of tweaking xfce and took out good old blackbox as a lightweight option.. It atleast does what it says.. (;
 
Old 01-24-2005, 03:08 PM   #14
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i've got an annoying issue with xfce 4.2. In 4.0.6 that came with slackware 10, the xfce panel stays on top of any open apps eg firefox, OpenOffice, etc... How ever in xfce 4.2, i cannot and further more the xfce panel does not alow me to extend the programs window under the panel.

xfce 4.0.6
=== --------------=== app's toolbox
xfce panel
------------------------

xfce 4.2

-----------------------
xfce panel
===---------------=== app's toolbox

toolbox is the top bar in the programs window where u get the - [] x

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