We are at beta level.

http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackwar.../ChangeLog.txt

Nice!!!

Great news! Looking forward to 14.0.

aah, lotta nice additions there!
I think Steve Kennedy, that started working on gnome-3.4 for -current, will be happy too.
Thanks, people!

Anxious and syncing =]

Hooray!
I dont really like xfce but i want to like it, so its great to have the latest version if im going to be dissapointed anyway.

I'm really liking XFce 4.10. First rate!

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Very nice!

And with it comes GConf.

Xfce series? Nice. We Xfcers are not second grade citizens in Slackland anymore. I'm so excited about 14.0. And some really nice additions. Barely wait to update my Slack current box.

Thanks for including some of the extras too.
Really appreciate the additions of the various goodies/plugins. This batch of updates has/will significantly reduce the time needed to manage, and the size of our personal repo. Digging the additional xfce directory.

Of course you can't please everyone
Wish there there was a way to get a GTK login manager (GDM) included, along with a GTK editor (Gedit+Gedit Plugins)

Pat -- thanks for the explanation about udev! Love the verbose communication we've received during this dev cycle.

Considering mozilla-nss is now included - any thoughts on including separate mozilla-nss and nspr, then adjusting the SlackBuilds for firefox/seamonkey to use more system libraries (sqlite, nss, nspr ....)? Building this way, leaves seamonkey-solibs with only libmozjs.so. Could seamonkey-solibs be nuked since js185 has been added?

Looking at my Xfce 4.10 build, which is just an extension of Robby's 4.8, I've noticed a couple of missing packages -
avahi
libdaemon (needed by at least avahi)
libunique(2.x) (needed by at least xfce4-notes-plugin)
libunique(3.x) (needed by at least gnome-disk-utility)
gnome-disk-utility -- wonder how the newer versions which depend on udisks2 will work out, 3.0.2 is working fine here.

gnome-keyring could benefit from the use of libcap{-ng}, as it seems the common way to install the gnome-keyring-daemon binary is with cap_ipc_lock=ep instead of using suid. Far beyond my knowledge, might be worth investigating none-the-less.

I guess this must solve the annoying output i had when testing irssi-xmpp which i had reported back then.

Yay for split xfce packages and seperate series.

gdm-2.20.x is the last one we could possibly ship. 2.x stuff newer than that require PAM (and later, something else too iirc), and the 3.x stuff require all of that plus something else that I couldn't be bothered to figure out -- basically, even with PAM and whatever else, gdm-3.x wouldn't work here. I decided to quit fighting it and just use kdm -- it works fine, and aside from not supporting suspend/hibernate from the greeter window, it does everything I want it to do.

gvim is already included ;-)

This one is above my pay grade, so I'll stay quiet except to say that the Mozilla folks probably wouldn't like that deviation to use more system libs.

Well, if udisks2 is present, gvfs will build a volume monitor that uses it, so we didn't need gnome-disk-utility (for the gdu-volume-monitor). Since we don't need gnome-disk-utility, there's no need for libunique or avahi, so there's no need for libdaemon. As an aside, gnome-disk-utility as of 3.4.x is only the "disks" utility (which used to be palimpsest or some such)...

Hrm, I'm confused. It's not installed suid here - why would it need to be?

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GDM 2.20.11 serves it's purpose here. I suppose XDM is always an option as well. May have to dig out my old notes on customizing XDM.

Thanks for the insight and info on the other topics.
Those other applications I mentioned are easy enough to obtain and manage through slackbuilds.org.

I am pleased that my USB thumb drives automount and function properly again. XFce 4.10 is a winner. I suspect that a RC is coming at some point.