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Old 03-09-2005, 11:46 AM   #1
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Would someone like to build Evolution 2.2 for Slack?


I confess: I like Evolution. The problem is that is requires so much Gnomish stuff to keep it happy. I've had good success building new releases and betas of Evolution through version 2.15. Starting with 2.16 I think it wants me to update a handful of Gnome libraries and development tools for a successful build. I'm reluctant to do this, as I don't want to corrupt my smoothly running Slackware system. (I use xfce and, occasionally, KDE, but never Gnome).

MY QUESTION: I'm wondering if somebody out there who uses a recent release of Gnome on Slackware current has already built Evolution 2.2 and would be willing to post the tgz package somewhere.

I think I would at least need evolution-data-server 1.2, as well. I also have updated a few other packages (gal, gtkhtml, libgnomecanvas, libgnomedb and libsoup) to support Evolution 2.15. But I don't want to go any further with massive installation of new Gnome libraries or updating of gtk+ and other things that Slackware also uses (at least in my config).

Thanks. If I could just get Evolution completely free of Gnome, I'd be a happy camper. But that would be like getting a wife without a mother-in-law, which doesn't happen often.
 
Old 03-09-2005, 02:17 PM   #2
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I used to like Evolution too and it compelled me at one time to try compiling gnome from source. Then I discovered Kontact from KDE, and it serves just as well as Evolution. Calender, Mail, RSS feed, notes, To-do list, Contacts, you name it, its got it. Give it a try.

If you already know about Kontact and just like Evolution, then I'm afraid you'll have to keep looking for a solution.
 
Old 03-09-2005, 02:33 PM   #3
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I used to be an Evolution fan as well until kontact came along. Anyway Clawhead why don't you try building the packages yourself, when you compile from source, you don't have to make install, just use checkinstall to create the tgzs and install them using installpkg, if there is a problem you can just remove them.
 
Old 03-09-2005, 03:19 PM   #4
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I used to be an Evolution fan as well until kontact came along. Anyway Clawhead why don't you try building the packages yourself, when you compile from source, you don't have to make install, just use checkinstall to create the tgzs and install them using installpkg, if there is a problem you can just remove them.
Yeah, that's what I've been doing for a good while now. But lately (starting with version 2.16) the library and development tool requirements are getting more than I care to keep up with. They've set the bar too high for me; it's not complexity so much as (1) the tremendous hassle of updating umpteen-dozen packages to permit me to build one app and (2) the risk to my very stable Slackware system. For example, I'm pretty sure Evolution 2.20 is going to want GTK+2.6.4, and I just don't want to install a GTK+ package that Patrick hasn't already tested for Slackware. Otherwise, I might as well be using some other distro.

I'll give Kontact a try and see how I like it. But it'll be hard to replace Evolution. I don't even know why I like it so much; I just do. It feels right to me, and it suits my work style. The virtual folders, for example, are especially useful.

I really, really wish there were some sort of Evolution-only package set that I could easily update. Even if it were sort of largish, I'd be willing to sacrifice the disk space. But I can't go around chasing down Gnome libraries and tools every time a new incremental version of Evolution comes out.

I know, I could just settle with my current version of Evolution. But I just can't sleep nights knowing that there's a later version of a favorite app and I'm not using it. Now, if they were to charge money for the upgrade, I'd probably feel differently. But that day hasn't come ... yet.
 
Old 03-09-2005, 05:47 PM   #5
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hmmm...i might need to try out evolution again. I am finding a lot of stuff i dont like about kontact. I like to use the Summary view or in Korganizer the What's Next. What is annoying me is that events that have already passed still show up in the What's Next view, and when you click on events in Summary view, it doesn't bring up the window for the event, instead it brings up the calendar...
 
Old 03-09-2005, 11:32 PM   #6
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hmmm...i might need to try out evolution again. I am finding a lot of stuff i dont like about kontact. I like to use the Summary view or in Korganizer the What's Next. What is annoying me is that events that have already passed still show up in the What's Next view, and when you click on events in Summary view, it doesn't bring up the window for the event, instead it brings up the calendar...
The bad news is that, starting with 2.x, Evolution has dropped the summary view. There's a lot of noise about getting it back, but I have no idea if the developers are listening.
 
Old 03-10-2005, 12:12 AM   #7
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Heres your gnome packages. I found them with the search option, sorry had to point that out.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=296677
 
Old 03-10-2005, 02:18 AM   #8
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Yeah, I had already checked Linuce. His set offers Evolution 2.04, and I'm already running running 2.15. It's version 2.20 that I' d like and that I'm not willing to build myself.
 
Old 03-10-2005, 02:39 AM   #9
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okay sorry
 
Old 03-10-2005, 02:51 PM   #10
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Conclusion: i tried Evolution and decided again i don't like it. Sticking with Kontact. Kontact is not perfect, but it's the best pim out there at the moment.
 
Old 03-12-2005, 06:54 PM   #11
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O.K., I'm happy now. I lifted pre-built packages for evolution-2.2.0 and evolution-data-server-1.2.0 from the new iso of Freerock Gnome (FRG) version 0.1.94 (which can install Gnome 2.10). Except for updating gtkhtml to 3.6, I didn't have to update or install any other Gnome stuff. You can also get gtkhtml 3.6 from the same iso if you need to.

The URL for FRG is http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...age_id=143903.

FRG is part of the Gnome SlackBuild project. I figured they build a pretty decent Evolution package, and it seems they did.

Meanwhile, I am trying out Kontact and I agree that it's attractive. I'll compare the two head to head over the next week or so. I already see a thing or two missing in Kontact that Evolution has (virtual folders, for example), but Kontact feels more responsive overall, which I like. I like the muted colors of Evoluton better than the default Kontact scheme, but maybe I can change that. I haven't looked into it yet.

Thanks for your suggestions.
 
Old 03-13-2005, 06:36 PM   #12
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Another vote for the Freerock packages. He's helped me with many Slack issues and packages.

I did a full Gnome 2.10 update on a newly-installed Slack 10.1 desktop and things are working beautifully. The Ximian Connector (included in his ISO) is my next test. If I can connect to Exchange with it, it will eliminate a very large hurdle to a Windows-free environment.
 
  


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