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storkus 04-29-2013 10:32 PM

Will we ever get LXDE officially in Slackware?
 
Being that it's almost as lightweight as FVWM-2 (and thus a lot lighter than recent XFCE versions), and Slackware has always been rather lightweight and heavily used on servers, it kind of makes sense it be here, yet I don't see anyone talking about including it. Is it because no one else wants it or what?

Thanks, Mike

P.S. OT, but I hope Pat includes the 3.9 or 3.10 kernel on release, dm cache and/or bcache looks insanely useful!

samac 04-30-2013 11:58 AM

It might not be included in Slackware, but it is available from http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/pe...ckbuilds/lxde/ Alien Bob's site, and also on SBOPKG. So it is really easy to install.

samac

PrinceCruise 04-30-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by samac (Post 4942016)
It might not be included in Slackware, but it is available from http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/pe...ckbuilds/lxde/ Alien Bob's site, and also on SBOPKG. So it is really easy to install.

Seems like we have those packages for Slackware 13.0 as last version. Will there be serious issues if one installs those packages in 14.0?

Regards.

ponce 04-30-2013 12:47 PM

here are up2date packages

http://ponce.cc/slackware/slackware-14.0/lxde/
http://ponce.cc/slackware/slackware64-14.0/lxde/
http://ponce.cc/slackware/slackware-current/lxde/
http://ponce.cc/slackware/slackware64-current/lxde/
http://ponce.cc/slackware/slackwarea...ronments/lxde/

TommyC7 04-30-2013 12:51 PM

If we do get LXDE, I hope it's split into it's own package set like XFCE so we can pick and choose only the things that we want.

ponce 04-30-2013 12:59 PM

yupz, but consider that all the packages that are needed to have a complete lxde desktop (the above ones) are ~7.5 Mb in size (xz compressed). ;)

storkus 05-01-2013 09:04 PM

Thank you for your packages, Ponce, and I intend to install them one of these days and give it a try; I understand that the Salix LXDE package also works out of the box (or nearly so).

However, my question was whether Pat and company will ever officially include LXDE in a future release. I realize there are arguably too many WM's in Slackware, and I wonder how many people still use TWM, but LXDE, from the screenshots, seems to keep the simplicity of Slack and seems like it would be a good fit.

Thanks, Mike

mjjzf 05-13-2013 04:24 PM

I would like Openbox in there, but there is quite a lot of *box in there already...
Frankly, if the choice was not already benevolently dictated, my vote would be against it - for a technical reason: Lxde is under development and has come a long way over a short time. Since it will not be updated regularly as part of the Slackware project, I think this package belongs in the hands of the community. The frequently updated SlackBuilds make Slackware my distribution of choice partly because it allows for a cutting edge system. Same for Razor QT.

ReaperX7 05-13-2013 08:13 PM

LXDE would be a nice addition. If KDE ever gets dropped down to community and SBO support only, like Gnome is, it'd be a perfect replacement.

MadMaverick9 05-13-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mjjzf (Post 4950420)
The frequently updated SlackBuilds

I apologize for throwing in an off-topic post here. But this is not quite true, I believe. For example: the ClamAV Slackbuild is two releases behind already. Another example is udevil; the Slackbuild is way behind.

On the other hand, people like ALienbob and Ponce provide much more up to date Slackbuilds many times. For example: Libreoffice 4.0.3 is already available on "taper.alienbase.nl" a few days after it was released.

ReaperX7 05-13-2013 10:08 PM

Slackbuilds are updated only if the people in charge of them update them. Often most aren't updated as frequently as we'd like, like ClamAV, but the scripts are editable to work with updated versions with minor adjustments. Otherwise, just download, build from source, and archive your source in /usr/src so you can uninstall or rebuild if needed.

TobiSGD 05-14-2013 04:58 AM

My two cents: We have a Qt based DE (KDE), a GTK based DE (XFCE), some *boxes and things like FVWM and WindowMaker. IMHO, if there should be an addition to make Slackware more complete for the enduser it should be either a tiling WM (i3 would be nice), Enlightenment (to have a third toolkit, EFL, and because it is very lightweight and nice looking) or both.

rkfb 05-14-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by storkus (Post 4943054)
[...]
However, my question was whether Pat and company will ever officially include LXDE in a future release. I realize there are arguably too many WM's in Slackware, and I wonder how many people still use TWM, but LXDE, from the screenshots, seems to keep the simplicity of Slack and seems like it would be a good fit.
[...]

I'm using TWM on an old Toshiba Qosmio laptop....really resource friendly and a lot of fun!

croxen 05-14-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by rkfb
I'm using TWM on an old Toshiba Qosmio laptop....really resource friendly and a lot of fun!
I'm using TWM on a desktop that is set up as a dedicated Mythtv backend. The only X app the thing runs is mythtv-setup, and TWM makes it easy to run it when necessary without keeping a mouse on the machine.

torimus 05-14-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 4950738)
My two cents: We have a Qt based DE (KDE), a GTK based DE (XFCE), some *boxes and things like FVWM and WindowMaker. IMHO, if there should be an addition to make Slackware more complete for the enduser it should be either a tiling WM (i3 would be nice), Enlightenment (to have a third toolkit, EFL, and because it is very lightweight and nice looking) or both.

+100 for the idea about inclusion of a tiling wm. It may start to live in testing/ whereas abandoned Blackbox wm (8 years since last update) shall be sent to the pasture.

Some poll what tiling wm would fit best to Slackware ? In sense of project's maturity and to introduce minimum of new dependencies as possible ?

Candidates that come on my mind are dwm, i3 or ratpoison.
xmonad is very mature and stable but has massive dependencies in haskell's compiler ghc & libraries.
awesome is nice but changes its api frequently and depends on bleeding edge parts of xcb libraries.
subtle (use personally) is handy and relatively stable, but cann't say its development is continuous one can rely on.

Any other idea ?


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