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Old 09-06-2012, 06:32 AM   #46
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I couldn't resist it. I had to try it

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2. install 13.37 knowing that I will replace it in a few days?
It proved challenging what with EFI and GPT and I needed ruario's help.

And Slackware 14 will go on it as soon as it's available.
 
Old 09-07-2012, 03:10 AM   #47
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Almost there. Last version of Upgrade.txt

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Slackware 13.37 to 14.0 Upgrade HOWTO <volkerdi@slackware.com>

This document explains how to upgrade from Slackware 13.37 to Slackware 14.0....
Rest of the document at http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackwar...nt/UPGRADE.TXT


Great!!!
 
Old 09-07-2012, 06:48 PM   #48
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Hmmm i thought the version numbering was gonna be 14.kernel-vers like 13.37,, so back to old numbering again? Haha
 
Old 09-07-2012, 07:44 PM   #49
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Hmmm i thought the version numbering was gonna be 14.kernel-vers like 13.37,, so back to old numbering again? Haha
That was only a joke. There was never an intention to use kernel versions in the Slackware release number... it was pure coincidence and therefore ideal for a prank.

Eric
 
Old 09-08-2012, 12:04 AM   #50
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Personally, I was rather hoping the release after 13.37 would be nubered 14.73, given the time between the last two releases (the longest in Slackware's history), but alas...
 
Old 09-08-2012, 12:36 AM   #51
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Hard choice coming up. New PC due to be delivered to-morrow. I ordered it when I saw that 14 RC1 was out and I thought the final release would arrive before the PC.

So do I
  1. ignore the PC until 14 is released.
  2. install 13.37 knowing that I will replace it in a few days?
  3. use Windows for a few days?
Assuming the hardware on your new computer is rather recent, I highly recommend waiting for the release of Slackware 14.0, as with its later kernel version, 3.2, it'll have a higher probability of good hardware support. In the meantime, I recommend having fun with a few live distros (e.g. Chakra GNU/Linux, as KDE SC on it is fabulous) until Slackware's next release. Also, never use Windows under any circumstances, lest you wish to laugh at the way it does things. Honestly, the number of times I've used a Windows computer at uni and was reminded about the need for anti-virus software and the importance of defragmenting... I still can't get over the fact that I simply never think of those sorts of things while using Linux, but always thought about them while using Windows before I discovered Linux. Anyway, do you know if you can claim back the money spent on the preinstalled copy of Windows if you haven't accepted the EULA?
 
Old 09-08-2012, 12:52 AM   #52
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Anyway, do you know if you can claim back the money spent on the preinstalled copy of Windows if you haven't accepted the EULA?
Please tell us more
 
Old 09-08-2012, 01:36 AM   #53
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Anyway, do you know if you can claim back the money spent on the preinstalled copy of Windows if you haven't accepted the EULA?
No way in mainland China. Microsoft has bought Chinese officials.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 03:11 PM   #54
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Regrettably I still need Windows for my ipod touch and satnav. And I am not convince that any of the Linux Raw processing programs are as good as the Windows ones.

Actually I was pleasantly surprised with Slackware 13.37 on my new PC. My only problems were:
The nouveau driver crashed kde. Fixed by installing the Nvidia driver
The wrong driver was installed for my network chip.
And the really big problem - now sorted that LILO could not cope with the UEFI system on my new computer. I suspect that 14 would have the same problem. People have been complaining for years that Slackware should use GRUB and now it seems that LILO really is obsolete.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 04:59 PM   #55
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I am glad LILO is the primary bootloader of the distribution, as I don't like Grub2 at all for traditional BIOS booting.

If I had to use a (U)EFI motherboard, I would rather use a) LILO under legacy BIOS mode (some kernel modules have not support for UEFI systems, so you would be obligued to use BIOS mode to squeeze the 100% out of certain hardware anyway); b) any other (U)EFI capable bootloader, installed by LiveCD or whatever.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 05:02 PM   #56
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Regrettably I still need Windows for my ipod touch and satnav.
The only thing I need Windows on bare metal for as far as my iPhone or iPad is iOS updates. Syncing works through vbox. I hate having to waste a partition for Windows and the time it takes to reboot. iOS updates through vbox have led me to have to recover my phone before.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 05:11 PM   #57
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People have been complaining for years that Slackware should use GRUB and now it seems that LILO really is obsolete.
That doesn't mean they have to use Grub. elilo is another option and a future version of Slackware's other bootloader, Syslinux, will have EFI support (it is in the pipeline).
 
Old 09-09-2012, 08:01 PM   #58
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Anyway, do you know if you can claim back the money spent on the preinstalled copy of Windows if you haven't accepted the EULA?
Do you even have to accept an EULA on OEM software, or is acceptance simply implied by usage? If the latter, I would think you would have a hard time proving your case, or of making Microsoft care. After all, buying a computer with Windows preinstalled means you are agreeing to purchase Windows.

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Old 09-09-2012, 08:50 PM   #59
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Do you even have to accept an EULA on OEM software, or is acceptance simply implied by usage? If the latter, I would think you would have a hard time proving your case, or of making Microsoft care. After all, buying a computer with Windows preinstalled means you are agreeing to purchase Windows.
From what I remember, accepting the EULA and creating a user account were required to begin using Windows 7 on my laptop. (I used it for all of a few hours, and then installed Linux Mint 8 over the top, which remained for a fair while from what I remember.) Someone that attended a Free Software Melbourne discussion group told me that if I didn't do that I could've reclaimed the OEM Windows purchase, which certainly surprised me. I haven't been able to verify their claim though... something to find out on Software Freedom Day, perhaps...
 
Old 09-09-2012, 08:55 PM   #60
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From what I remember, accepting the EULA and creating a user account were required to begin using Windows 7 on my laptop.
For the fun of it I downloaded the Windows 8 Public release and installed it on Virtualbox. The installation process required me to log-in with a hotmail account; I had to create a hotmail account for the installation to go forward.
To get back on topic. I think that 14.0 is much closer....I feel a disturbance in the force.

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