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cwwilson721 11-26-2009 10:38 AM

What's up with gnome and SW13?
 
I know there USED to be gnome for SW12.2. But the current state of gnome with SW13/64 is really a big joke....

From what I've been able to figure out so far:


GSB (GnomeSlackBuild): They say there are REQUIRED PACKAGES to replace. However, the "Replace Packages" link does not work, so I'm NOT going to even start using this version. If they can't/won't tell me what I have to replace first (according to their instructions), I'll be danged if I'll use it. Why is it such a BIG SECRET?
I posted this issue to them over 5 weeks ago, and still no fix. If they don't care, neither will I.

DLG (Dropline Gnome): There is no usable info on whether 13/64 is an option. All they talk about is Gnome versions, and I really could care less about that. What version of DLG will work with SW13/64? THAT'S the info I'm interested in, not how cool the next release of gnome is. Where's the info? No info, no install.

And gware (Gnome for Slackware) does NOT support 13 yet, at least according to the info page on their website. All they talk about is 12.x versions, no mention of 13.

So it looks like gnome is dead for Slackware.

And if these sites are any indication, good riddance

AlvaroG 11-26-2009 10:48 AM

AFAIK, gsb-current works fine with Slack13, although it has no stable version yet.
The Required Replaced packages link is dead, indeed, but you can find which packages need to be replaced if you read the "Download and Install" page. There are only 4 IIRC: gtk, libwnck, alsa and bluez

For me Dropline seems to replace too many packages, and GSB is just too tied with dependencies. I do use some of their packages (I updated my gtk package with GSB version), anyway.

I for one would like to see a stable version for Slack13. Never felt a need for GNOME but I'd like to try it, the same way I like to have LXDE, XFCE and others installed just for fun. My main desktop is KDE, by the way :-D

cwwilson721 11-26-2009 10:57 AM

Well, I would like a gnome infused SW13/64 install, because SO MANY other source programs use gnome as their main gui. Becomes a real pain to hunt down packages...sigh.

As for GSB, refering to a "Required Replacement List", and NOT having the list available, seems very odd. And in the install instructions, it always mentions "there may be others, check the list" links. Since the list is not available, I'm not going to bork my system just to have a laugh. A simple link should work, shouldn't it? Especially since it's "required". If they have THAT much disregard for me, why should I trust ANYTHING they do?

As for the -current version, is it good for 64bit? Being stable is not a big deal, but compatibility is.

dugan 11-26-2009 11:25 AM

Yes, they have a broken link. The information is here:
http://www.slackware.org.uk/gsb/gsb-...D_PACKAGES.TXT

AlvaroG 11-26-2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwwilson721 (Post 3770463)
As for the -current version, is it good for 64bit? Being stable is not a big deal, but compatibility is.

They have a gsb64 system that works with Slack 64bit. I can't say if it works fine or not, I haven't used it.

The link should work. There is no justification for it not to, and it should be a really quick fix. One may think "if they can't make a link work, how are they making a full GNOME work?" ;-)

TClayton 11-26-2009 11:41 AM

I can say the GNOME SlackBuild for Slackware Linux v13.0 works fine.
I will install GNOME SlackBuild64 today and post back if it works for me.

Well the GNOME SlackBuild64 installed without a problem and seems to be functional on a fresh 13_64 install.

ckt1g3r 11-26-2009 11:54 AM

hi , i use gsb64-2.26.3 on a laptop machine with slack64-13.0 and it works very well , is stable and fast.

dugan 11-26-2009 06:43 PM

I posted a message on their mailing list notifying them of the broken link. They fixed it.

jjthomas 11-27-2009 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwwilson721 (Post 3770445)
GSB (GnomeSlackBuild): They say there are REQUIRED PACKAGES to replace. However, the "Replace Packages" link does not work, so I'm NOT going to even start using this version. If they can't/won't tell me what I have to replace first (according to their instructions), I'll be danged if I'll use it. Why is it such a BIG SECRET?
I posted this issue to them over 5 weeks ago, and still no fix. If they don't care, neither will I.

I can't believe you had such a hard time with GSB. They have always been responsive to my requests. Did you try their IRC channel?

If it were me, I would put slack in a VM, run the GSB installer and see what got replaced.

-JJ

dugan 11-27-2009 09:05 AM

What is an efficient way to see what got replaced? Would you create a file containing a directory listing of /var/log/packages, install GSB, create another file containing a directory listing of /var/log/packages, and then run diff? Is there a better way?

gargamel 11-27-2009 09:49 AM

I'd try
Code:

# slackpkg --clean-system.
It will tell you, what would be changed to revert you system to a "clean" Slackware-stable system. However, it tells you only, which packages, not which files are replaced.

Maybe, there are better ways, but that's what I would try.

gargamel


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