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kikinovak 12-18-2014 11:36 PM

What will happen to Linux in 2015?
 
I just stumbled over this blog post:

What will happen to Linux in 2015?

After reading it, I feel motivated to take a peek in my own crystal ball. Right, here goes. Top Ten things that will happen to Linux in 2015:
  1. Slackware 14.2 will be released. When it's ready.
  2. KDE 5.x will fix 97.302 bugs and introduce 102.243 new ones.
  3. Xfce 4.10 will fix two bugs, which brings it closer on the roadmap to the long-awaited 4.12 release.
  4. Red Hat releases systemd Linux consisting of a boot manager and the 12.5GB systemd binary which has incorporated bash, X, KDE, and 663 other programs.
  5. The Devuan team will start work on their fork of Debian, as soon as they have finished choosing the Technical Committee and the Devuan Board Members.
  6. GNOME 3.16 introduces the fixed-window paradigm. Every application has an ideal window position on the screen. According to the GNOME developers, it will still be possible to move windows on the desktop using the Tweak Tool at least until version 3.18. Beyond that, this functionality will eventually be disabled permanently.
  7. After a heated exchange on LKML, Linus Torvalds offers a public apology to Lennart Poettering, stating that his suggestion to "practice [unnamed sexual practice unheard of in the animal kingdom] with Taliban carpet salesmen's dogs" may have gone a bit too far.
  8. The Swiss Police Force migrates 45.000 desktop client computers from Windows Seven to Hannah Montana Linux.
  9. Scientists find out that climate change is due primarily to the widespread adoption of Gentoo Linux and the constant heating of compiling CPU's in datacenters worldwide.
  10. Richard Stallman issues a fatwa on Canon printer drivers.

:)

Niki

ReaperX7 12-19-2014 01:21 AM

This would be a perfect episode of Letterman.

Richard Cranium 12-19-2014 02:06 AM

I had no idea that the desktop software that I use is so primitive.

At least, according to the article linked to by the one kikinovak pointed to...
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This is quickly become a necessity in a landscape being dragged down by out-of-date design standards (think the likes of Cinnamon, Mate, XFCE, LXCE -- all desperately clinging to the past).

This is not to say that Linux on the desktop doesn't have a chance in 2015. It does. In order to grasp the reins of that chance, it will have to move beyond the past and drop the anchors that prevent it from moving out to deeper, more viable waters.
I'll admit that *I* thought that you drop anchor to stop the ship from moving around.

55020 12-19-2014 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kikinovak (Post 5287321)
bash, X, KDE, and 663 other programs.

Then GOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD IS SEVEN
Then GOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD IS SEVEN
Then GOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD IS SEVEN

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Originally Posted by kikinovak (Post 5287321)
Scientists find out that climate change is due primarily to the widespread adoption of Gentoo Linux and the constant heating of compiling CPU's in datacenters worldwide.

Actually that's Bitcoin. And it's a real problem, and it needs fixing right now :tisk:

ReaperX7 12-19-2014 05:29 AM

And in 2016 Bill Gates will open source Windows 11 and give out free copies while dressed as an evil clown...

NathanBarley 12-19-2014 09:34 AM

Articles like this are confusing, or outright stupid. 'Innovation' or not being 'stuck in the past' is usually synonymous with doing whatever everyone else is doing, and giving it a fancy name. Complaining that Ubuntu is not evolving quickly enough with their desktop release is daft, especially if the intent is to mature their platform. The death march of software releases is not necessarily a good thing.

Also the windows hate is puzzling. A huge chunk of Linux desktop culture is unconsciously imitating Windows.

genss 12-19-2014 09:58 AM

the desktop thing is funny as even windows admints (not in words) that "unified desktop-touchaphone experience" was not actually a good idea


a friend of mine who was a professional rock guitar person just records raw wav with that windows record thingy
another few dj friends make music with actual turntables, records and a big mixer
what i found is that mac is more for professional emos
also there is sox, teh best audio thingy

onebuck 12-19-2014 11:10 AM

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Hi,
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Originally Posted by NathanBarley (Post 5287546)
Articles like this are confusing, or outright stupid. 'Innovation' or not being 'stuck in the past' is usually synonymous with doing whatever everyone else is doing, and giving it a fancy name. Complaining that Ubuntu is not evolving quickly enough with their desktop release is daft, especially if the intent is to mature their platform. The death march of software releases is not necessarily a good thing.

Also the windows hate is puzzling. A huge chunk of Linux desktop culture is unconsciously imitating Windows.

Maybe I missed something! You can show me where Microsoft Windows OS has virtual Desktops? Multiple consoles? Sure that can be achieved by after market apps. So in my mind MS doesn't lead in a Desktop arena. Just MS marketing hype that people propagate as FUD.!

Death march? So LibreOffice is not an effective suite? Most Gnu/Linux have more freely accessible packages available to the user. We as Gnu/Linux users do not have to invest hundreds of dollars into MS Office or any of the suites that MS makes available for inflated costs.

To me that is Gnu/Linux as something that is alive and still marching forward with every new software packages that are developed in FOSS.

Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
:hattip:

NathanBarley 12-19-2014 11:49 AM

I think you've misunderstood me.

I'm not talking about virtual desktops or terminals; I mean design cues. Linux DE's for the most part have taken a lot of fairly obvious inspiration from their better known peers.

'Death march' is in reference to aggressive forced release schedules, like Firefox.

John VV 12-19-2014 12:16 PM

well i DO disagree with this part
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The Linux desktop must move beyond the past to succeed
I LIKE GNOME2 !!!!
yes it can use some cosmetic "eye candy"

but it is intuitive and LOGICAL
things are where you would expect them to be

gnome3 is so bad i moved to kde


if there is TOO MUCH of that kind of change -- linux is doomed

the ONE THING i DO NOT !!! want to see is for linux distros to "drink the KOOL-AID " of
" one gui for every device "

using the same GUI for a phone or handhelp tablit
AND!!!
for the desktop ( on a DESK!!!!!! ) with a real keyboard

dose NOT WORK

just look at the "new" google map for that

NathanBarley 12-19-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by John VV (Post 5287627)

I LIKE GNOME2 !!!!

You're not alone. Have a look at MATE, you would like it.

cwizardone 12-19-2014 01:42 PM

Humor, people!
The initial post in this thread was written "tongue-in-cheek."

273 12-19-2014 01:46 PM

Sadly most people seem to want tablet OSs on their PCs. Well, they don't, but they've been told they do by "designers" so they do.
In the real world, of course, Microsoft has done a U-turn on "Not 'Metro'!!!!!!!!" for Windows 10 because they realise that people who actually want to use their desktop computers might not actually want their gimmicky tablet cruft. Quite why Canonical think that emulating Microsoft's mistake is beyond me and quite why some think they should go on doing so is equally baffling to me.
kikinovak, I like your list, made me chuckle. :)

jimX86 12-19-2014 01:46 PM

These are my predictions for 2015, although the last one is only tangentially related to Linux:
  1. Despite the constant wailing and gnashing of teeth, "somethingwicked" will not appear in the Slackware ChangeLog.
  2. If #1 is incorrect, then at least it will be implemented in the least intrusive and most sane manner possible.
  3. I will continue to use the desktop software of my choice without telling everyone else that their choices are incorrect.
  4. At the end of 2015, Slackware will still be Slackware.
  5. It will be scientifically proven that the Mayans were actually correct and the world has already ended.

qlue 12-20-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 273 (Post 5287668)
Quite why Canonical think that emulating Microsoft's mistake is beyond me and quite why some think they should go on doing so is equally baffling to me.
kikinovak, I like your list, made me chuckle. :)

Um, if you're referring to the "one desktop for all devices" idea, then Canonical are the pioneers in that field. Unity was released well before Windows 8. :P

If you look deeply into the origin of many of the 'advances' in software, there are a helluva lot of things that were developed for Unix/Linux well before they were adopted by Microsoft. They just didn't become 'popular' before they became the default way in Microsoft's philosophy.


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