What If .........Slack needs Systemd (Slackbuilds)
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So here's my version of the 60,000 dollar question.
How is systemd's configuration going to be easier to use than the BSD/SysVInit script set we use that keeps configuration methods, troubleshooting, and managing files written in plain text English, as well as the logging system that performs the same way?
Are you going to create documentation within the configuration files used by systemd to have internal hints, samples, and other documentation about switches and arguments made against the daemons being used?
Will systemd have the ability to support custom daemons not normally added such as is done with rc.local's method of add-on daemons?
Distribution: slack 7.1 till latest and -current, LFS
guess what reaperX7, rc.local works
you can add anything in rc.local to start.
also custom daemon are possible yes.
Description=Update the current kernel level in the /etc/motd
this I have built into systemd file to have the slackware motd work directly
you can have anything start in such a service file.
ReaperX7: please read post #27 from ruario if not already done.
Can't you see that you are off topic there?
How am I off-topic when I'm asking a simple question about one of the more important aspects of this feet? Configuration!
Obviously, since you guys are so hostile against any questions against or for the topic, why is it even open as a topic? The purpose is to ask questions and get informed, right? Maybe I'm losing my hostility towards systemd with a proper implementation if one can exist, but unless I, or for the matter, anyone, can even ask questions, we have to ask them.
So Didier, pipe down yourself and maybe you should take Ruario's words to mind rather than me. YOU tone it down sir!
And bartgymnast, I'm in no way against you doing this IF it can be done simply, non-invasively, and properly in how Slackware's overall design is, with adequate documentation, samples, and reliability overall. You don't need to keep up the rhetoric with the sarcastic comments either. Either be serious about this, or don't bother. And yes, excising out PAM would be a good idea. PAM isn't very friendly to use, and should be optional entirely even if hard required by logind. Other avenues can exist that work far less intrusively.
If you pull this off correctly, you'll gladly have my respect. However, I do advise you that you are being watched heavily in this matter so leave the sarcasm out please.
ReaperX7 - Leaving aside your systemd questions since I haven't ever used systemd and therefore cannot answer them, I'm pretty sure bartgymnast is serious about this. bartgymnast's first language may not be English (though it's pretty good and easily understood), so what you detect as sarcasm may just be down to language differences. On the other hand you do seem to be a native English speaker, and telling someone that they "are being watched heavily" in the manner that you have is not really a nice thing to say.
bartgymnast - Interesting work, I may try it on a VM if I have time, it'll be interesting for me to see how it works and to find out what's different.
While most seem to have performed some pretty good peer moderation I'd like to ensure this thread stays on topic from here on. That means posts should be helpful for the OP and truly constructive or else cease posting in this thread.
Thanks in advance for cooperating.