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Old 05-09-2011, 04:14 AM   #1171
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Furthermore, it would be easier for users of Slackware (Slackware which has as its default distribution), which want to install or test other distributions that use grub as boot loader. ... eg:Fedora 14

Of course I think the maintainers of Fedora 14 should also give the option to install lilo ...

Fedora cited as an example only ...

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Grub is available in /extra for Slackware 13.37 (32-bit)
 
Old 05-09-2011, 04:15 AM   #1172
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Hi :-)

I'm not saying to change the lilo by grub, but to add.
Those who prefer lilo, use lilo, those who prefer grub, grub use ...

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ps: inclusive, would be more democratic ;-)
I don't think Slackware is about democracy and sometimes democracy may not be the best option
 
Old 05-09-2011, 04:35 AM   #1173
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I had several contacts with GRUB and it did not impress me. Using GRUB for multiboot Linuxes normally resulted in the idea that there is the correct GRUB in one of the distributions and all other GRUBs are inferior. Using GRUB to multiboot with Windows killed Vista loader once (never gave it a second chance). I observed other people who multibooted with Windows until one unlucky Windows update killed GRUB. Once I played with the idea that one multiboot VM may be better that several specialized ones. Distributions that use GRUB repeatedly made everything unbootable, including itself. The last time I checked GRUB was officially impossible to uninstall.

All of the above may look irrelevant since GRUB is proposed as an option. However, I have an impression that if something comes with Slackware, it is good and safe. I would be disappointed a bit seeing GRUB as an installer option.

Thus, I guess if a Slackware user wants to try Fedora, let her use the Fedora GRUB. If that fails, it will be immediately clear how good that Fedora is - mission completed.

I doubt that any installer can be made smart enough for the GRUB installation at boot time to be better and easier than GRUB installation from an installed and running Slackware.
 
Old 05-09-2011, 04:42 AM   #1174
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I was gonna start a new thread for this, but I saw this one and I'll put it here. I request that using 'adduser' when you press up for additional groups to also add 'lp' and 'scanner' to that list. This way scanners and printers will work properly out of the box. I guess I just have to add them manually at this stage until then.
 
Old 05-09-2011, 06:30 AM   #1175
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I usually add lp manually to extra groups (haven't got a scanner), it doesn't take much effort.
 
Old 05-09-2011, 07:25 AM   #1176
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I usually add lp manually to extra groups (haven't got a scanner), it doesn't take much effort.
I know, but if they added all the other groups, because people had problems ... why not these too ?
 
Old 05-09-2011, 07:42 AM   #1177
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Hi,

You can edit the line at the time of group entry instead of just pressing <return>. Just add the groups on the line before you press <return> or <enter>. Prompt states that the line is editable.
 
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:26 AM   #1178
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I think the problem which H_TeXMeX_H means is, that it is not obvious that users who want to use the scanner of a multifunction-device must be member of the scanner and lp groups. This is because of the permission for the device.

It leads to additional confusion that without being member of either group one can print via cups since the permissions for cups are configured on a different way.

@onebuck: you're right, if someone knows that the user has to be member of this groups, it is no problem

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Old 05-09-2011, 08:55 AM   #1179
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@ lp group

I always get messed up when trying to configure my HP All In One that I use only for scanning because the ink cartridge is empty and I refuse to spend money on a freebie printer that doesn't print very well. As long as LQ never deletes my blog on this, I'll never have to look up that information again ;P
 
Old 05-09-2011, 09:18 AM   #1180
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Hi,

You can edit the line at the time of group entry instead of just pressing <return>. Just add the groups on the line before you press <return> or <enter>. Prompt states that the line is editable.
Yes, I do that ... but I'm saying I don't want to. It should be added to that line, so I, and others don't have to. This will save them from permissions problems, which are quite common.
 
Old 05-09-2011, 09:33 AM   #1181
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Yes, I do that ... but I'm saying I don't want to. It should be added to that line, so I, and others don't have to. This will save them from permissions problems, which are quite common.
I guess the decision not to include it by default comes from the fact that not everyone has a printer (let alone a scanner.)
 
Old 05-09-2011, 09:35 AM   #1182
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I guess the decision not to include it by default comes from the fact that not everyone has a printer (let alone a scanner.)
Well, I don't have a floppy drive ... and yet here I am in the floppy group ...
 
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Old 05-09-2011, 09:56 AM   #1183
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... and yet here I am in the floppy group ...
Viagra might help.
I've got a floppy drive, never used it, but it's there in case I do need it.
 
Old 05-09-2011, 10:28 AM   #1184
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I may take it ... in about 40 years or so.
 
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In 40 years or so, you'll probably settle for a cup of Cocoa. ;p


One of my old boxes still has an iomega zip drive in it! The only reason I haven't taken it out is I don't have a spare blanking plate to fill the gap
 
  


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