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Old 12-05-2013, 04:04 PM   #1
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VMware WorkStation 10?


Hey guys, I seem to be unable to install VMware Workstation 10, it just says installation failed, in both GUI and with the --console option.

Has anyone gotten this to install on Slackware64 14.1?
 
Old 12-05-2013, 06:09 PM   #2
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Have you tried the console option with
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--console --ignore-errors
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:45 PM   #3
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How do you have VMWare set up?
 
Old 12-06-2013, 04:44 AM   #4
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You will need to patch VMware Workstation.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vmware+wor...&kn=1&kl=us-en
https://github.com/willysr/SlackHack...master/vmware/
http://slackblogs.blogspot.com/2013/...ation-and.html

Also check the ArchLinux link in the DDG search results.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 09:44 PM   #5
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Thanks guys,
It turns out I didn't need to patch the drivers just use Cheesesteak's advise, thanks again.
 
Old 12-07-2013, 03:28 AM   #6
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Has anyone investigated what these script errors in the VMware installer are and what in Slackware is causing them to appear?
 
Old 12-07-2013, 07:32 AM   #7
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No interest. Not rich enough to waste money on VMware Workstation. Why doe the VMware staff not do it?

For qemu / VirtualBox at least the users can participate in development. With VMware no way, no chance.
 
Old 12-07-2013, 03:58 PM   #8
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Has anyone investigated what these script errors in the VMware installer are and what in Slackware is causing them to appear?
It's not really clear what is happening because the installer script silence's the output, until something fails then it just prints that the install failed.

I wish I didn't have to use VMware, but there are still a lot of vmware vm's at work so this is a necessary evil. I have started to convert our infrastructure to KVM is hopefully when its all converted I can ditch vmware entirely.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 04:43 AM   #9
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No interest. Not rich enough to waste money on VMware Workstation.
The free-beer VMware Player has the same issues and it would be nice to have it work on Slackware out of the box.

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For qemu / VirtualBox at least the users can participate in development. With VMware no way, no chance.
Well, not really. VirtualBox is completely controlled by Oracle and it's inferior to VMware. Qemu is either a very slow emulator or just a frontend to Linux KVM and not a cross-platform virtualization solution.

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It's not really clear what is happening because the installer script silence's the output, until something fails then it just prints that the install failed.
It creates log files somewhere. I remember VMware once working flawlessly on Slackware 12 or 13. And it still works, if you run the installer with -I, so it can only be a minor issue (like some command behaving slightly different). Once it's fixed, it should stop these threads popping up all the time...

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Old 12-08-2013, 11:18 AM   #10
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The free-beer VMware Player has the same issues and it would be nice to have it work on Slackware out of the box.
I did try VMware Player (see my older posts in another thread). There was some problem with the usb arbitrator. But since it's closed source software, why do we spend 100 times time and resource doing debugging for WMware for free, and boost VMware's market while WMware itself can do it much more easily with source code at hand?

If VMware makes our debugging unnecessarily harder and it gains benefit from our debugging, then VMware should pay.

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Well, not really. VirtualBox is completely controlled by Oracle and it's inferior to VMware. Qemu is either a very slow emulator or just a frontend to Linux KVM and not a cross-platform virtualization solution.
When something is wrong with VirtualBox you can post a patch on Oracle's bug tracker. In this way you can benefit everyone else with little effort. This how open source makes the community more efficient.

And ... why is qemu not a cross-platform virtualization solution? It is obviously much more cross-platform than VMware.

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It creates log files somewhere.
/tmp/vmware-root/
 
Old 12-09-2013, 08:28 AM   #11
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When something is wrong with VirtualBox you can post a patch on Oracle's bug tracker. In this way you can benefit everyone else with little effort. This how open source makes the community more efficient.
I won't help Oracle by sending them patches for free, they don't deserve it. The USB 2.0 support in VBox is not open source and USB 3.0 support is completely missing.

BTW: I'm just fine with good proprietary application software, that's why I'm using Opera and Steam. So the VBox license is completely irrelevant to me. If VBox improves and beats VMware feature-wise, then I consider it. Currently it is just not there.

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why is qemu not a cross-platform virtualization solution?
Qemu is an emulator, not a virtualizer. The hypervisor is KVM-only. I have no use for emulators, they are too slow.
 
Old 12-09-2013, 11:34 AM   #12
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I won't help Oracle by sending them patches for free, they don't deserve it.
I do not like Oracle either but because their bug tracker and VirtualBox are open, I can also help other users when I post a patch, not only Oracle.

Also, when Oracle takes our work, there is no loss from either. VMware however, wastes our time if we do debugging for their closed source programs. Why should anyone waste his/her time when this overhead can be completely avoided with open source?

When you help Oracle, your cost and their gain is 1:1. When helping VMware, this ratio can be 100:1 or more. So why help VMware? (Note: I didn't say "why not help Oracle".)

As you said, VMware is more powerful. The powerful needs no aid. It shows you it needs no aid by closing its source. Please don't disgrace VMware by helping it.

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The USB 2.0 support in VBox is not open source and USB 3.0 support is completely missing.
Ok, then you have a very special use case -- to use USB 3.0 in the guest.

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: I'm just fine with good proprietary application software, that's why I'm using Opera and Steam. So the VBox license is completely irrelevant to me.
I also use opera. I have good feelings with it, but I don't fix bugs for opera, just like I don't fix bugs for VMware. Life is limited. No waste of time.

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Qemu is an emulator, not a virtualizer. The hypervisor is KVM-only. I have no use for emulators, they are too slow.
Ok, so you are a MS-Windows user. Then I understand, qemu is not good for you. However, that kvm is not ported to MS-Windows doesn't mean it is not portable.
 
Old 12-10-2013, 05:45 AM   #13
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guanx, you added absolutely no useful information to this thread, you just started bashing VMware in #7. No one here is interested in this.

Last edited by jtsn; 12-10-2013 at 05:48 AM.
 
Old 12-10-2013, 09:53 AM   #14
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guanx, you added absolutely no useful information to this thread,
jtsn, you added false information to this thread. I didn't keep silent because I don't like lying.

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you just started bashing VMware in #7.
#7 is in reply to #6. If you don't want reply, then you please don't post at all.

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No one here is interested in this.
You are very interested in that you made so many replies, obviously, on the other hand, so far no one is interested in your suggestion in #6.
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