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Old 11-03-2007, 12:43 PM   #16
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holy toledo - it worked!


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perry@slackware:~$ vmware
only i haven't the first clue how to use the thing. it didn't ask about where my win2k folder was located, seems to want to install it's own from scratch... is this the case ?

i can do that, but boy that's bit of a long shot cause now i'll have to spend the week installing the thing (that plus all the drivers and everything else)

is this how it works ?

thanks

- perry

ps.
oh man... it can even read iso images...!!!!!

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Old 11-03-2007, 01:08 PM   #17
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The easiest way is to set up a new virtual machine, but to use the virtual hard drive you had previously created (you will get the option in the create new virtual machine dialog). That way you won't have to reinstall a virtual OS; You just have to tell VMware how much memory you want to give it, etc.

Also, after that is done and when the OS is booted, install the VMware tools (use the option in the GUI). This will make your display driver better and it will also give you more control of your virtual hardware.

Again, if you have any more problems with basic configuration or usage issues, I highly recommend you download (pdfs) the documentation from VMware's site from http://www.vmware.com/support/pubs/server_pubs.html
 
Old 11-03-2007, 01:13 PM   #18
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thanks for your help.

for future reference, if you manage to hit the full screen button by mistake, you'll have to rename the .vmware directory and restart vmware. nothing else gets it's attention

- perry

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Old 11-03-2007, 01:56 PM   #19
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well, it seems to be working, i'm like a kid a christmas

right now it's installing windows 2k right from scratch and i must say i am a little mesmerized, when it works, it's awesome

the idea that i might soon be able to play all my graphically intensive games from one little window inside my Slackware 12.0 Linux box is like icing on the cake.

guess i won't be needing wine any longer... or that win2k partition...

then again, i might just keep it around for posterity

yeah guys are KaRaZi!

http://cplusplus.org/shotsfired/

- perry

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Old 11-03-2007, 02:27 PM   #20
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Doesn't connect to the Internet?

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The following bridged networks have been defined:

. vmnet0 is bridged to wlan0

Do you wish to configure another bridged network? (yes/no) [no] 

Do you want to be able to use NAT networking in your virtual machines? (yes/no)
[yes] no

Removing a NAT network for vmnet8.

Do you want to be able to use host-only networking in your virtual machines? 
[no] no

Removing a host-only network for vmnet1.

Extracting the sources of the vmnet module.

Building the vmnet module.

Building for VMware Server 1.0.0.
Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only'
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.21.5-smp/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.21.5'
  CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/driver.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/hub.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/userif.o
Seems to me that this is something that should work! Should I re-run the vmware setup and do the defaults thing on network settings? Perhaps setup some sort of NAT configuration?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks

- Perry

CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/netif.

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Old 11-03-2007, 04:01 PM   #21
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for future reference, if you manage to hit the full screen button by mistake, you'll have to rename the .vmware directory and restart vmware. nothing else gets it's attention
I have not had this problem. Full screen and quick switch modes work great for me. Maybe your X server doesn't like the resolution or something. Did you install the VMware tools yet? That might help.

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the idea that i might soon be able to play all my graphically intensive games from one little window inside my Slackware 12.0 Linux box is like icing on the cake.

guess i won't be needing wine any longer... or that win2k partition...

then again, i might just keep it around for posterity
don't bank on that as you will have quite a performance hit running the virtual machine. If possible, running your windows games through wine would be much more efficient (sometimes even better than windows). If you have a really fast machine and lots of memory the games should be fine as long as they aren't *too* demanding.


As a side note, if you want to really want to hack around with VMware you can even use a physical partition for your virtual machine. Thus, you could run your existing REAL Windows 2k on your VMware server. You have to do a lot of hacking around to change drivers and such as the virtual machine has different hardware than your real machine. In addition, the user running VMware has to have permissions for the whole disk the partition resides on, so this is really only useful if your Windows partition is on its own disk. You wouldn't want your regular user to have full rights to everything on Linux...

As far as the whole networking issue...

Bridged networking:
means that you are setting up the virtual machine to access the internet with its own IP address. This won't work if you can't get more than one IP for yourself.

NAT:
your host machine acts as a router and gives your virtual machine and IP. If you don't have a router already on your network you will more than likely need to use this as most ISPs won't give your more than one IP by default.

Host Only:
Use this if you don't want your virtual machine to connect to the internet. It would only have access to your host. This may be all you need if you aren't playing any games that need internet. Use windows networking or sftp to share files between the host and virtual machine.

hope this helps
 
Old 11-03-2007, 04:20 PM   #22
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thanks so much

re-ran for runme.pl and went with defaults, left me with three connection types, the third one (NAT based I think) worked

tried to run two games, they installed fine (blitzkrieg and battlefield) but neither can seem to start (for shame)

vmware is very interesting, i managed to get it to access one of my external usb drives which it does. however linux can no longer seem to get at it at the same time

will tinker with it a little bit more but as it stands now, if it can't play a game for me, there's not much point. perhaps if i ask it to install the ati drivers, what would it do i wonder...

worth checking out

thanks (very much) again

- perry
 
Old 11-03-2007, 05:58 PM   #23
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perhaps if i ask it to install the ati drivers, what would it do i wonder...
Don't need to wonder too much as the virtual hardware is NOT the same as your real hardware

Don't forget this. Look at the Windows 2k hardware manager on your virtual machine to see what it has.

Here's an alternative to VMware - Virtual Box. I have never tried it but it may be interesting to check out if you like this stuff.

If your are really interested in getting Windows Games to work on Linux you might want to contact the developers. Ask them to work with the WINE project or make a direct port. Also, there is a commercial WINE-fork devoted to getting Windows games to work. If you don't mind spending a little money that might be something to look into. It's called Cedega.

have fun!

Edit: http://www.cedega.com/cedegainfo/ might be a better link for Cedega.

Last edited by shadowsnipes; 11-03-2007 at 06:05 PM. Reason: better link
 
Old 11-04-2007, 01:32 PM   #24
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thanks again

i spent the better part of yesterday checking out vmware and it was really impressive, didn't do everything i wanted it to but it did really good. if only i had the patience to tweak a couple of nuances with going into full screen mode or tracking the mouse i'd make use of it for games that will run on it. i actually got Commandos to work and i think games of that nature will work on it provided it can track the mouse properly.

also, it has a tendancy to distrupt my linux setup. i tried getting it to detect usb devices only for it to take over the extrenal drive all together and not give it back. stuff like that kind slows things up a bit, but it's ok. one thing i did notice is that it installs way much faster as a virtual machine as opposed when you install it natively. cdrom access is very fast and it is probably due to the way linux is doing things.

http://cplusplus.org/shotsfired/Screenshot-8.png

so it was fun checking it out. thanks again for you help, it was greatly appreciated

- perry
 
  


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