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Old 03-03-2014, 02:19 AM   #16
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dont know about warcraft 3, but diablo 2 runs excellent under wine.

in any way, it works good on slack x32 13.37 on intel graphics ( i915), and on 14.0 on nvidia 7600gs.
on a days try install wine on my slack64 14.1 with GT630, and see what diablo2 says...

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Old 03-03-2014, 02:34 AM   #17
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You'll get the same results regardless of the VM you choose. Hypervisors do not allow direct access to the host system hardware, even if it has 3D acceleration, you'll still going through the hypervisor and it's going to impact performance significantly. Some games actually do require a true Intel, Nvidia, AMD, or other actually branded hardware video card to operate correctly, or it will either refuse to run the game, or put you into software rendering which will hurt performance even more.

If you want games, choose dual-booting. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using Windows if you want the best quality experience for your games. There's plenty of free software available to keep your Windows side safe and fully functional as your GNU/Linux side.

VMs, Wine, and CrossOver are made mostly for productivity work, testing, and some standard applications and work loads, not gaming. While some games are found to work under Wine, it is still not recommended you use Wine for this purpose.
Wine is all purpose. Who is recommending you don't run games in Wine? You? The wine devs spend time fixing bugs in games and everything else. Newer games will probably have trouble, Diablo II isn't new and should run fine in Wine. It has multiple platinum ratings on winehq. Obviously Windows is ideal for any Microsoft designed software, but it's also inconvenient if you don't really use it. You have to dual boot, run up disk space, you need a copy of Windows etc. Sometimes Windows isn't an option for everyone, and there's nothing wrong with using Wine to run your games if they actually work.
 
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:24 AM   #18
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I actually was trying to get just Diablo II installed and hadn't tried my Warcraft III yet until yesterday.

The Warcraft II has only ond CD, whereas Diablo II has three plus the LoD expansion CD for later.

I tried the Warcraft installation, but it looks like my DVD burner can't read something on it at a certain point and I constantly get an error at the same exact spot. This is a bummer after having kept this game with me over multiple moves from residences over the years since what...1999 or so when it came out. (the poor CD isn't too badly scratched up after a decade+, but it's not the smooth, shiny brand-new thing it once was either)

The problem with the Diablo install is the old problem of years ago where it asks to change the CD during installation and then doesn't 'see' it when you do and the installation has to stop right there.

I'm not disappointed in the WINE devs or anything like that, just a little tired of having to go a look/find what to do any time I want to play a game on my linux (granted, it's rare I actually play non-native games, but the once every 5 or 6 years I *do* want to it's a PITA...but then so is having to dual-boot with M$...a no-win situation, lol).

I'll go to the wine page though and see if there's an answer to my problem with the CD swap thing.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 06:55 AM   #19
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http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=362457
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Diablo_II
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34660663
http://www.saltiresable.com/articles/diablo-2-on-linux/

maybe that's help you. sadly, i do not remember, how exactly i installed under wine my - it was a years ago, and from that time i copy /.wine directory with all installed diablo2 to my new machine, and all continue work...
 
Old 03-03-2014, 08:33 AM   #20
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I honestly wish Loki Software would reform. They were pioneers in porting many games to UNIX and did a lot of work showing GNU/Linux was a viable market platform.

I've had my share of games work with Wine, but it's only been a handful at best of all my games so I can't actually say that I would recommend Wine for any game, new or old. It's really trial and error which is why dual-booting is the best option. Some games work, and some don't. I've read wikis on getting games to work and even those that were confirmed at one time, didn't.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 05:25 PM   #21
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Well, I installed an older version of wine and it works. Had to mount the cd's manually to swap during installation of Diablo II.

Unfortunately, even with emulation check-marked, all I get is a teeny tiny 800x600 screen (supposedly...I say it looks more like a 640x480 in the 1600x900 lcd monitor!). Not sure where else to look to make it slightly bigger (also after having had the game thing take over my video settings and I had to open up the nvidia settings dialogue to reset it to 1600x900).

Also found out that WinXP won't install on my system for some reason. The only thing I can figure is it doesn't see the dvi for the monitor and that's all my video card has is dvi, no vga plug. There's no way in hell I'm paying the outrageous prices I saw on Amazon and ebay for an M$ OS either, not for a couple of games, heh.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 06:16 PM   #22
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diablo 2 can't run on bigger resolutions
you can try use the directx to glide wrapper that can scale it up (same quality, diff resolution)
http://www.svenswrapper.de/english/
i can't remember how i got it working thou

just asking, did you set the resolution in game ?
if i remember default is 640X480

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Old 03-03-2014, 09:16 PM   #23
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diablo 2 can't run on bigger resolutions
you can try use the directx to glide wrapper that can scale it up (same quality, diff resolution)
http://www.svenswrapper.de/english/
i can't remember how i got it working thou

just asking, did you set the resolution in game ?
if i remember default is 640X480
I'll look into that and see what it's about.

I set it with 'winecfg', there's no setting for resolution while playing the game itself. It seems you (and I unknowingly) are correct - it *is* 640x480. It's awfully tiny on a 1600x900 monitor. Really sucks, lol.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 10:22 PM   #24
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I'll look into that and see what it's about.

I set it with 'winecfg', there's no setting for resolution while playing the game itself. It seems you (and I unknowingly) are correct - it *is* 640x480. It's awfully tiny on a 1600x900 monitor. Really sucks, lol.
there is an option in game to set it to 800x600

there is actually no benefit from setting it higher since the artwork is at that resolution
also fun about diablo 2 is that in single player it runs at 25fps as it does all the hit logic with animations
that's what makes it so awsome

PS there is a patch for higher resolutions, i cant remember why i couldnt run it (wrong game ver i think)
may lag since the game was not made for it

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Old 03-03-2014, 10:36 PM   #25
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Also found out that WinXP won't install on my system for some reason. The only thing I can figure is it doesn't see the dvi for the monitor and that's all my video card has is dvi, no vga plug. There's no way in hell I'm paying the outrageous prices I saw on Amazon and ebay for an M$ OS either, not for a couple of games, heh.
Windows XP is end of life. I wouldn't even worry about it. Windows 7 is the new XP, and it's actually more stable and reliable than XP.

If your computer is an OEM branded one, you can always call the company and try to get an installation disk from them for cheap or even free sometimes. Some still carry copies of Windows 7 installation disk, and not just recovery disks. I've gotten a replacement installation disk from HP once for 7 x64 Home for only $25.00 + shipping.

There are even OEM versions of Windows you can get off NewEgg for less than the retail versions. They're single system use, but a good choice.

Having DVI or VGA shouldn't matter. All video cards are set to automatically detect and use whatever the primary display port used is connected. Usually it will go in this sequence:

VGA-1 > VGA-2 > DVI-1 > DVI-2 > S-Video/Multi-Out/RGB > HDMI-1 > HDMI-2

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Old 03-04-2014, 07:48 AM   #26
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there is an option in game to set it to 800x600
I can't seem to find it anywhere.

I also installed that wrapper thing but I haven't noticed any difference in anything so far. Thanks anyway though.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 07:51 AM   #27
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Windows XP is end of life. I wouldn't even worry about it. Windows 7 is the new XP, and it's actually more stable and reliable than XP.

If your computer is an OEM branded one, you can always call the company and try to get an installation disk from them for cheap or even free sometimes. Some still carry copies of Windows 7 installation disk, and not just recovery disks. I've gotten a replacement installation disk from HP once for 7 x64 Home for only $25.00 + shipping.

There are even OEM versions of Windows you can get off NewEgg for less than the retail versions. They're single system use, but a good choice.

Having DVI or VGA shouldn't matter. All video cards are set to automatically detect and use whatever the primary display port used is connected. Usually it will go in this sequence:

VGA-1 > VGA-2 > DVI-1 > DVI-2 > S-Video/Multi-Out/RGB > HDMI-1 > HDMI-2
All my systems *after* the very first one I bought, have been built by me, so that I know *exactly* what's in it and have always saved myself a good bunch of money. Besides, none of the branded ones seem to think following standards is a good idea either...just like M$, so I won't go near one with a ten foot pole and/or if someone paid me or tried to *give* one to me.

I might try one more time to install XP and this time write down the 'problem' that it gives and do a search for it...maybe it'll be an easy fix.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 07:58 AM   #28
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I can't seem to find it anywhere.

I also installed that wrapper thing but I haven't noticed any difference in anything so far. Thanks anyway though.
in game
options -> video options

maybe you have a too old version of diablo2


you shouldn't see a difference really, since all the art is at a fixed resolution
after unziping the wrapper things into d2 install folder you need to run glide-init.exe and set it up there
then run D2VidTst.exe and pick.. the third option, i think its "glide"
done

PS won't be any better on xp
maybe bit higher fps, thats all
 
Old 03-04-2014, 08:48 AM   #29
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I honestly wish Loki Software would reform. They were pioneers in porting many games to UNIX and did a lot of work showing GNU/Linux was a viable market platform.
Well, valve does seem promising on that end. Unfortunately i don't play games anymore. Buthopefully they can inspire the next generation. Amazing how curious kids 10 years younger than me are now adays. But then i still consider myself a kid. But curiousity linux and steam games, might just be what is required.

Not sure if the valve reference is correct but that is what was displayed on my half life intro screens. Haven't been following games for long.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 11:16 AM   #30
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in game
options -> video options

maybe you have a too old version of diablo2
Nope, don't have that setting option or any view-size option there. It is an original CD when the game first was available on store shelves, so maybe it is an old version.


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you shouldn't see a difference really, since all the art is at a fixed resolution
after unziping the wrapper things into d2 install folder you need to run glide-init.exe and set it up there
then run D2VidTst.exe and pick.. the third option, i think its "glide"
done

PS won't be any better on xp
maybe bit higher fps, thats all
Okay, thanks. I'll give that a try and see what happens.

Okay, just tried all your suggestions with the wrapper thing and all and I now have a nice 800x600 and it looks just as good as the 640x480 except I can actuall see it now, lol. Thanks very much!
 
  


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