Hi all,
I am posting this now but I have been thinking about this for a 'long' time now. There are two things I want slackware to have with a default installation.
1) Grub - not grub2. Grub legacy is stable enough and I think it should be included in the default installation.
2) Selinux - boy I miss it. Selinux is touted as the security app of all times and now debian, ubuntu and all the sundry have it. Opensuse has apparmour and that too is fine but there is nothing of this nature with slackware.
What I am hoping is someone can look into this and can put the applications in a default slackware installation.
If these packages cannot be included in a default installation I would really like to know why.

1) Grub legacy is still not released, and is now unmaintained. In /extra, though.

2) This would be a major undertaking, and would probably be more hated than loved (at least by me). Plus, it didn't help prevent CVE-2009-2695, and very likely the increased complexity brings with it some unknown holes.

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I dont think i'd abandon Slack if selinux was ever implemented, but I'd have a damn good rant about it.

That sure is one hell of a mess you are trying to make outta slackware...you wanna tarnish the image of slackware? you debiantard..LoL

I think there is a kernel line option for implementing SELinux..not sure if anything else is required to make it work though..
I've seen SELinux in fedora and well...@#@&^@(&(*@! SELinux

1) I love lilo! Lilo is one of those things that keeps me with Slackware (ok, there are a zillion more reasons for that) - so, please don't replace Lilo with Grub.
2) selinux: I see no reason why this should be mainstream. if everybody jumps in pools of burning lava, I still see no reason to do so myself. If you want your slack installation selinux-ed, go ahead: all the required tools are there.

Ditto what Ramurd said.

I was always a grub kinda guy before starting some years ago w/Slack. Since then I've had no problems with lilo. As far as selinux....
think it's better off if we don't. I remember the headaches I've had with it...at least in the past.

I'd like Slackware to include a booze dispenser and a selection of scantily clad women.

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I've been playing with Fedora 14 recently to see how the other half live and SELinux has given me a couple of WTF! moments. IMO it's not worth the overhead and complexity it introduces, and unless you've got something specific you want to lock down a little more such as a public facing ftp daemon then I'm not convinced it adds that much anyway.

I tend to share the views of the OpenBSD guys on this: Proper privilege separation and well written/maintained code is better than trying to bolt on a Mandatory Access Control sticking-plaster to fix things that shouldn't be broken in the first place.


Oh, and lilo does the job just fine.

At last!!! A sensible suggestion!

lol, hell yeah!

but better make that configurable to keep GrapeFruitGirl happy. A TOTTY_GENDER=male|female config option should do the job.

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Jeez, why didn't I think of that?

SilverBack,

1. No thank you. I much prefer lilo to grub; lilo does what I need it to do.

2. No thank you. That is not *our* way. Slackers prefer a hands-on approach to system security and maintenance.

And to think that I biotch at Kyle for having Grub as the default (only initial) bootloader in Sorcerer Linux!

No thanks on the SE stuff over here on this end either.

But then again, I don't use cfdisk either - I just don't get all that youser frinley stuff

And btw, FLASKs are for Jack Daniels, Makers Mark, or Knob Creek, IMNSHO.

Just my , if anyone's taking a straw poll.

Kindest regards,

"Selinux is touted as the security app of all times"
Do you seriously think NSA provides an unbreakable security app for all people ?

I don't like Grub. And i consider Grub2 as catastrophic.