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Old 06-17-2011, 11:49 PM   #1
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Trouble connecting Slackware 13.37 to the internet


Hey there, friends. I'm having some trouble getting my new copy of slackware connected to the internet. I'm new to slackware, so I'm not sure where to begin troubleshooting.

So far, I've run netconfig and tried to set up a DHCP and a Static-IP connection, both to no avail. I know my internet connection is working since I'm currently using the same box with a hard-drive that has crunchbang on it. I've read chapter 5 of the slackbook up to the section on PPP and have thus far gotten lost in my /etc/rc.d folder looking at lottsa neat files.

Using ifconfig -a gives me information about an eth0, an eth1, and a lo connection thing. From what I understand from the book, this means that slackware has registered my network card but does not have the right configuration necessary to connect.

I tried getting information about my connection from crunchbang, which was as simple as right-clicking a certain icon and copying down my interface, hardware address, driver, speed, security, ip address, broadcast address, subnet mask, default route, and primairy DNS. Since setting up DHCP didn't work after startup, I assumed I was using static I.P. I put in my IP address, mask, default route, and DNS, but it has not yet connected.

If any of this makes sense to someone, please tell me where I went wrong or how I can start checking my connection to see how to fix it. Sorry for the trouble.
 
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:20 AM   #2
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Please post the output of
Code:
ifconfig
from both operatingsystems then we can compare the settings. Please post as well the output of
Code:
lspci -k | grep -iA5 ether
from both systems.

Please provide more information, are you using PPP? DHCP? do you have a router? if yes, is the router configured for DHCP?

Markus

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Old 06-18-2011, 11:21 AM   #3
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Crunchbang's output looks like this:

Code:
eric@crunchbang:~$ ifconfig
eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d8:5d:4c:f2:a8:a6  
          inet addr:192.168.2.2  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::da5d:4cff:fef2:a8a6/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:1050 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:788 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:376237 (367.4 KiB)  TX bytes:144255 (140.8 KiB)
          Interrupt:18 

eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:d4:09:9c:ac  
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
          Interrupt:19 Base address:0x9800 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
          
eric@crunchbang:~$ lspci -k | grep -iA5 ether
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 90)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a04
	Kernel driver in use: sis900
00:05.0 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus controller 180 SATA/PATA  [SiS] (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a04
	Kernel driver in use: sata_sis
--
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
	Subsystem: Device 1acb:e102
	Kernel driver in use: 8139too
00:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 80)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a04
	Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci
And Slackware's output looks like this:

Code:
bash-4.1# ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:D4:09:9C:AC  
          inet addr:192.168.2.2  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
          Interrupt:19 Base address:0x9800 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:240 (240.0 b)  TX bytes:240 (240.0 b)

bash-4.1# lspci -k | grep -iA5 ether
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 90)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a04
	Kernel driver in use: sis900
	Kernel modules: sis900
00:05.0 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus controller 180 SATA/PATA  [SiS] (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a04
--
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
	Subsystem: Device 1acb:e102
	Kernel driver in use: 8139too
	Kernel modules: 8139too, 8139cp
00:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 80)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a04
So what do you make of this? I'm using a belkin router to connect my computer and my wife's computer to the internet. I don't know if I'm using DHCP or Static I.P, but from when I understand about DHCP I don't think I'm using it. My IP address has never changed itself as far as I know. If there's a way to be sure-be it calling out ISP or checking on one of the computers (my crunchbang/slackware or her windows) let me know. I really appreciate the help.

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Old 06-18-2011, 01:08 PM   #4
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Interesting
What's crunchbang?

Could you post the output of "route" command from slackware?
Also you might try "ifconfig eth0 mtu 1492" as a root in slack. If it helps, I'm going to BMHATD
 
Old 06-18-2011, 01:21 PM   #5
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Could try to install wicd with slackpkg, configure that and check if that works? If you have a Belkin router you should not need to set your DCHP address statically, remove this and let the router assign it for you. What is the output when you do "ping www.slackware.org"?
 
Old 06-18-2011, 01:29 PM   #6
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If you have a router, you most likely use DHCP. If you have a windowscomputer in the network, open the dosshell and look at the output of
Code:
ipconfig /all
it tells you if you're using DHCP.

But I see no difference between the two systems, Slackware and Crunchbang, only Slackware's eth0 is Crunchbangs eth1, but that doesn't matter.

Can you ping any other computer via it's IP-adress? for example
Code:
ping 8.8.8.8
as for the other posts, you don't need wicd and I don't think that we have routing-problem here.

Note that if you have configured for static IP-adresses: every computer in the network must have it's own IP-adress. And note as well that if you configure for static IP-adresses, without further configuration in Slackware the program dhcpcd will overwrite your DNS-serversettings while the next systemstart.

So do what jostber wrote and remove the static settings. Here as an example the section in my /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf
Code:
# Config information for eth0:
IPADDR[0]=""
NETMASK[0]=""
USE_DHCP[0]="yes"
DHCP_HOSTNAME[0]=""
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Old 06-18-2011, 02:27 PM   #7
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Keep in mind that your home LAN is a totally separate issue from your Wide Area Network (WAN) Internet connection. Your WAN almost always uses DHCP. A computer on your LAN can use DHCP (or not) but must have a valid IP address assigned.

Here is what a computer needs to access the Internet.
  • Computer has IP Address on LAN (usually 192.168.xxx.xxx)
  • Network mask (usually 255.255.255.0)
  • Address of a gateway/router to reach the Internet
  • Address of a name server (DNS server) to look up computer names

Your Belkin router is the gateway/router. Its address is probably 192.168.2.1. So the gateway/router address should probably be 192.168.2.1.

The network address of your LAN is probably "192.168.2.0" and your computer's IP address should probably be "192.168.2.xxx". The "xxx" is either assigned by the router using DHCP or specified manually in a configuration file. Most routers use 1 or 254 for their address That leaves 2 through 253 as long as no other computers are using the same address. DHCP prevents assignment of duplicate addresses (for all the computers using DHCP). When you manually assign an address you have to avoid using any address that might be manually configured on some other computer, or assigned automatically by DHCP. You can look at your router's settings to find out the range of addresses that it might assign using DHCP.

The name server address is often the same as the gateway/router because the router can forward the requests to the name server for your Internet provider.

The "lspci" output shows that you have two Ethernet adapters.
  • SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet
  • RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+

The "ifconfig" output shows that you have one configured Ethernet adapter.

Quote:
Originally Posted by adoltswimmer View Post
Code:
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:D4:09:9C:AC  
          inet addr:192.168.2.2  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
          Interrupt:19 Base address:0x9800
Compare that to Crunchbag.

Quote:
Originally Posted by adoltswimmer View Post
Code:
eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d8:5d:4c:f2:a8:a6  
          inet addr:192.168.2.2  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::da5d:4cff:fef2:a8a6/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:1050 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:788 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:376237 (367.4 KiB)  TX bytes:144255 (140.8 KiB)
          Interrupt:18 

eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:d4:09:9c:ac  
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
          Interrupt:19 Base address:0x9800
Notice that the "HWaddr" for "eth0" is the same as "eth2" in Crunchbag. The "HWaddr" (MAC address) uniquely identifies a network interface. I think that your LAN cable is probably plugged into the other Ethernet card, labeled as "eth1" in Crunchbag. That interface wasn't configured in Slackware.

Since "eth0" does have an IP address configured, the address is probably set in "/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf". Look at that file to determine which network interfaces are using DHCP or have an IP address specified.

I also recommend that you use "ifconfig -a" to show all network interfaces, including the ones not configured and connected. If you see the second Ethernet interface then it has a driver installed but needs to be configured. If you don't see the second Ethernet interface then you need to install or load the driver for the interface.

The interface where the LAN cable is connected will probably have the name "eth1". That is determined by some "udev" rules. The configuration file is called "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules". The device names are usually assigned based on the hardware (MAC) address.

Code:
# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules
# program, run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single
# line, and change only the value of the NAME= key.

# PCI device 0x1022:0x2000 (pcnet32)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="08:00:27:01:66:d8", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
Notice that the "NAME" specifies the name of the device and "ATTR{address}" is used to match a particular hardware MAC address. If you add an entry for each network interface with the correct MAC address then you can specify the name that you want. You probably want to make the interface with hardware address "d8:5d:4c:f2:a8:a6" be the "eth0" device since it is where you have connected the LAN cable.

So, once you have the interface names the way you want them you can specify the network settings in "/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf".

You've basically got two choices for each network interface. You can use DHCP or you can specify the required information.

Code:
# Config information for eth0:
IPADDR[0]=""
NETMASK[0]=""
USE_DHCP[0]="yes"
DHCP_HOSTNAME[0]=""

# Config information for eth1:
IPADDR[1]=""
NETMASK[1]=""
USE_DHCP[1]=""
DHCP_HOSTNAME[1]=""

# Default gateway IP address:
GATEWAY=""
Code:
# Config information for eth0:
IPADDR[0]="192.168.2.2"
NETMASK[0]="255.255.255.0"
USE_DHCP[0]="no"
DHCP_HOSTNAME[0]=""

# Config information for eth1:
IPADDR[1]=""
NETMASK[1]=""
USE_DHCP[1]=""
DHCP_HOSTNAME[1]=""

# Default gateway IP address:
GATEWAY="192.168.2.1"
If you don't use DHCP then you have to specify the address of the gateway used to reach the Internet. That will be the address of your Belkin router.

You can see what gateway address is configured by using the "route" command with no other options.

Code:
route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.2.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     202    0        0 eth0
loopback        *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
default         192.168.2.1     0.0.0.0         UG    202    0        0 eth0
The "default" route should show your Belkin router's address in the "Gateway" column. Any packets not being sent to your LAN (192.168.2.0) or loopback (127.0.0.0) will use the default route and go to the Belkin router. If you use DHCP, the default gateway will be configured automatically and you can omit the information in the "rc.inet1.conf" file.

There is one last piece of information needed when manually configuring your network. You must specify a name server (DNS server). That is used when you enter web site names such as "www.google.com". The name server is used to find the IP address associated with each name.

The name server can be specified in the file "/etc/resolv.conf".

Code:
nameserver 192.168.2.1
Most routers have a feature called DNS relay or DNS forwarding. You can specify the address of the router as your name server, and the router will forward the requests to the correct name server. That way, you can let your Belkin router deal with any changes in the DNS server address.

If the router doesn't do DNS forwarding then you should specify your Internet provider's DNS server address. Providers do not frequently change their DNS server addresses.

When you use DHCP, the information in "/etc/resolv.conf" is updated automatically. You don't have to edit the file when using DHCP.

To determine if your name server is working, use the "nslookup" command.

Code:
nslookup www.google.com
Server:		192.168.2.1
Address:	192.168.2.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
www.google.com	canonical name = www.l.google.com.
Name:	www.l.google.com
Address: 74.125.45.99
Name:	www.l.google.com
Address: 74.125.45.106
Name:	www.l.google.com
Address: 74.125.45.147
Name:	www.l.google.com
Address: 74.125.45.105
Name:	www.l.google.com
Address: 74.125.45.104
Name:	www.l.google.com
Address: 74.125.45.103
What order works best for testing network connectivity? Usually I start by trying to ping the router.

ping 192.168.2.1

If that doesn't work, then it is time to look at the "ifconfig -a", "route" and the configuration files. Get "70-persistent-net.rules" sorted out first, so that the device names are predictable and correct. Make sure that you know the MAC address of the network interface you are using. Next, make sure that "rc.inet1.conf" is correct. I usually reboot the computer after changing either of those two files. You should be able to ping the router when they are correct.

After you can ping the router, then make sure the default gateway and DNS server information is correct. When you can't access the Internet, but can access other computers and the router, then you may have a problem with the gateway or DNS server. Your WAN connection on your router could have failed, so make sure that some other computer can access the Internet!
 
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Old 06-18-2011, 02:40 PM   #8
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Are you using a wireless or wired connection? It seems that your wireless interface has not been properly activated under Slackware.
 
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@yuuko: everything said in this thread until now is about wired connections (ethernet)

@Erik_FL: thanks for the detailed explanation, hopefully it helps the OP to understand and solve his issue. You should consider to make a tutorial out of your post.

Markus

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Old 06-18-2011, 03:18 PM   #10
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You should also be able to reach your router by entering the Belkin router address "http://192.168.2.1/" in Firefox. This works even if you can't reach the internet, but not if you have problems with the LAN. Your /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf should look like markush mentioned above. I have Belkin as router myself and that works nicely with 13.37.

I would guess the problem is that your crunchbang has occupied 192.168.2.2 already, and that your address from the router is like 192.168.2.3 or 192.168.2.4. Remove the static IP address as said before. Restart the NIC on your box if necessary.
 
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I would guess the problem is that your crunchbang has occupied 192.168.2.2 already, and that your address from the router is like 192.168.2.3 or 192.168.2.4. Remove the static IP address as said before. Restart the NIC on your box if necessary.
As far as I have understood the crunchbang and Slackware run on the same machine as dualboot, so there can be no conflict between the same IP-adresses. But if there is a Windowscomputer in the network, it is possible that this one got the 192.168.2.2 adress via DHCP from the Belkin. Otherwise this would not work since both, Slackware and Windows (any version since Windows XP with servicepack SP2) check the IP-adress which they obtain via DHCP if it is really available. So I believe that conflicting IP-adresses are very unlikely in this case.

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Old 06-19-2011, 12:20 PM   #12
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Wow. First, let me say that all of you have been extremely helpful in helping me understand and configure my LAN connection. I just wish my job didn't have me working every day this weekend, or I'd have time to really try everything >.<! I'm currently cleaning my room, making lunch for now, making dinner to take to work, and catching up on all the posts posted since 2:30 yesterday when I left for work. I'm leaving for work in about an hour now.

In case it's important, I'm not actually duel-booting, at least not in the traditional since, I think. I actually have two hard-drives that I unplug when I want to connect the other. I haven't figured out how to have them both plugged in to work as a duel-boot from different hard drives. ANYWAYS.

I used the ipconfig command on the windows computer, and I do believe I have DHCP. I also noticed that my gateway and primairy DNS were both the same address, so the router appears to be handling DNS lookup for me (how nice of it!). There are indeed two network cards on this box, one that's connected to the motherboard that got destroyed, (long story,) and another that I had to buy to get it connected to the internet. I'll be able to try everything tonight after work, some time around 9 eastern time.

This post isn't very helpful, but I wanted to let you guys know that I'm still reading and working on the problem and I REALLY appreciate all the help! With all the information on this page now, I'm sure I'll have the problem fixed between today and tomorrow. THANKS GUYS!
 
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The MAC addresses of the interfaces show that Slackware has a different network interface configured than Crunchbag. Unless both interfaces have a network cable plugged in, Slackware is probably using the disconnected interface, and Crunchbag is using the one with a cable plugged in. Crunchbag is able to communicate, so it must be using the interface with a network cable. It's common for two different operating systems to detect the network interfaces in a different order. I've had to edit "70-persistent-net.rules" on a couple of my machines to specify names in the order that I want. I usually try to make all my operating systems on a computer assign names in the same order.

I have a little bit more extreme example of the problem, since my test box has five network interfaces. It can get quite confusing to sort out the device names and get them configured correctly.
 
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Quote:
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The MAC addresses of the interfaces show that Slackware has a different network interface configured than Crunchbag. Unless both interfaces have a network cable plugged in, Slackware is probably using the disconnected interface, and Crunchbag is using the one with a cable plugged in. Crunchbag is able to communicate, so it must be using the interface with a network cable. It's common for two different operating systems to detect the network interfaces in a different order.
...
Maybe it helps to configure (on Slackware) the eth1 device for DHCP
Code:
# Config information for eth1:
IPADDR[1]=""
NETMASK[1]=""
USE_DHCP[1]="yes"
DHCP_HOSTNAME[1]=""
and start the interface manually
Code:
/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 eth1_start
I had a similar case on a virtual machine which in fact had only one adapter but this was recognized by Slackware as eth1.

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Maybe it helps to configure (on Slackware) the eth1 device for DHCP
Funny story-I tried that before coming back to this thread. It totally worked, and I can use slackware to get onto the internet now.

As expected, I feel like a complete idiot for not figuring that out sooner. All this checking and it was simply moving the "yes" in a certain file from one line to the other. *bangs head against desk*

Thanks to everyone who helped. Although it was such a simple problem, I feel like there is a wealth of information in this thread to learn from. I printed it out at school so I could review it all. I might see if I can change eth1 to eth0 just to give myself another project to do. Also I'm gonna try to get this to be marked as "solved."
 
  


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