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Old 11-13-2003, 08:07 PM   #1
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Tried 2.6. Now no sound in either kernel.


First off, I should let you know that I have a Creative Labs SB Live! Value, and it was working just fine beforehand.

I followed the kernel compiling guide with the 2.6 kernel source except that I symlinked /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test9
When I ran make menuconfig, I enabled alsa as a module, sequencer support, OSS API emulation, OSS Mixer API(module), and OSS PCM API (module).

When I rebooted, I got a blank screen for a while (I guess framebuffer support didn't work out right), but eventually it came to the Dropline Gnome login.

After I logged in, I tried to play something in xmms, but it said something like "device doesn't exist." So... I reboot and load my old kernel, and now xmms "plays" but no sound is coming out. Any ideas why?

On the 2.6, I'm guessing that the module didn't get loaded. I have no clue why sound won't play anymore in my 2.4.22 kernel.

 
Old 11-13-2003, 08:11 PM   #2
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Did you check the mixer settings?
What does lsmod say with the old kernel?

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Old 11-13-2003, 08:18 PM   #3
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In the 2.4 I ran alsamixer, and all the sound settings were changed to zero.

When I moved them up, I still had no sound.

I'm running the 2.6 right now. Here's what xmms tells me:

Couldn't open audio
Please check that:
1. You have the correct output plugin selected
2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard
3. Your soundcard is configured properly

I got a whole bunch of these messages here when I ran dmesg:
PCI: IRQ 0 for device 0000:00:05.0 doesn't match PIRQ mask - try pci=usepirqmask

Also my scroll wheel doesn't scroll anymore. (No, I didn't change XF86Config)
 
Old 11-13-2003, 08:21 PM   #4
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Here's what lsmod is showing in 2.6:
Module Size Used by
apm 15144 -
ipv6 233536 -
ohci_hcd 15648 -
ehci_hcd 21856 -
usbcore 95828 -
ide_scsi 11904 -
tulip 37696 -
crc32 3648 -
agpgart 26312 -

That ipv6 is a real pig, eh? (And I don't even need it!)
Hold on while I reboot to the old kernel
 
Old 11-13-2003, 08:25 PM   #5
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In 2.4, lsmod says this:
Module Size Used by Not tainted
radeon 102340 1
snd-pcm-oss 37252 0
snd-mixer-oss 11992 1 [snd-pcm-oss]
usb-ohci 18888 0 (unused)
usbcore 58400 1 [usb-ohci]
snd-cmipci 17760 0 (unused)
snd-opl3-lib 5764 0 [snd-cmipci]
snd-mpu401-uart 3136 0 [snd-cmipci]
snd-emu10k1 60212 1
snd-pcm 55904 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-cmipci snd-emu10k1]
snd-timer 13252 0 [snd-opl3-lib snd-pcm]
snd-hwdep 4672 0 [snd-opl3-lib snd-emu10k1]
snd-util-mem 1136 0 [snd-emu10k1]
snd-page-alloc 6004 0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm]
snd-rawmidi 12512 0 [snd-mpu401-uart snd-emu10k1]
snd-seq-device 3920 0 [snd-opl3-lib snd-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi]
snd-ac97-codec 37240 0 [snd-emu10k1]
snd 27460 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cmipci snd-opl3-lib snd-mpu401-uart snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-hwdep snd-util-mem snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-ac97-codec]
soundcore 3332 13 [snd]
emu10k1-gp 1352 0 (unused)
gameport 1452 0 [emu10k1-gp]
ide-scsi 9424 0
tulip 40928 1
crc32 2880 0 [tulip]
agpgart 39576 3
 
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So, the modules are fine with the old kernel,
the mixer is set-up properly, but you still have
no sound?

Would the new kernel, by any chance, have
made changes to your /dev filesystem?

Are you getting any error messages in
relation to sound with the old kernel?

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Old 11-13-2003, 09:17 PM   #7
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did you try uninstalling then reinstalling the alsa-drivers package?
 
Old 11-14-2003, 07:14 AM   #8
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You definitely need to reinstall ALL the alsa packages whenever you compile a kernel including the libs tools and oss support if you use it. There's some info about it on the alsa site. It's a pain in the butt.
 
Old 11-14-2003, 08:37 AM   #9
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In the old kernel, there are no error messages. Just no sound.
I remember that in the menuconfig that devfs is now deprecated and if in doubt there, say N, so I did. I think that's different, though.
I haven't checked anything like /dev/sound/mixer to see where it goes.

Oh, boy. Where do I get started reinstalling all the ALSA packages?
(Would I need to do it for radeon as well? What about the scrollwheel?)

Thanks very much for the help so far, by the way.
 
Old 11-14-2003, 09:04 AM   #10
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Ok, download the main alsa package then do a ./configure --with-cards=emu10k1 --with-sequencer=yes make
as root make install.
as root chmod a+rw /dev/dsp /dev/mixer /dev/sequencer /dev/midi
do a normal ./configure make make install for alsa-util, alsa-library and oss if u need it
thats it.

I have an nvidia graphics card and I need to reinstall that every time I compile a kernel but thats easy just one file to run. I don't know about radeons sorry.

what do you mean about the scrollwheel, is it not working? As your asking about your radeon I presume x did not work for you, so you regenerated an xf86config file? You need to put your scrollwheel settings back in here if you did. You should probably then make a copy of the file so you can copy it over every time without any hassle. And another exactly the same but set up with your radeon drivers.
 
Old 11-14-2003, 09:31 AM   #11
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Thanks for the alsa stuff.

X *did* work for me. I just have no 3d capabilities anymore, and the mouse doesn't scroll. When I rebooted back using the old kernel, I had 3d and the mouse scroll wheel worked.
 
Old 11-15-2003, 04:37 PM   #12
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I did exactly what you wrote above (minus oss), and I got the same problem.

I think I'll end up copying my stuff to another partition and then re-installing.
 
Old 11-18-2003, 02:48 PM   #13
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Will recompiling my kernel b0rk my ATI Radeon 7500 driver?

I re-installed Slack 9.1 and now I want to recompile my kernel to trim it down and enable power management (the ACPI kernel provided on the Slack disc hangs my system at the RTC line), but I don't want to get burned like I did with the 2.6 kernel.
Namely, I want to keep my sound and 3D acceleration, so I'm sticking with 2.4.22 for now.

Above is how to get alsa back up and running, but what about the radeon driver? Will recompiling the kernel blow away my existing module?
Where would I go to get it again?
(Not ATI's web site. They only provide Linux support for 8500 and up, and I've got a 7500. I couldn't get the one at dri.sourceforge.net to work either. Does gatos.sourceforge.net provide the correct driver?)
 
Old 11-18-2003, 08:35 PM   #14
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I just recompiled my 2.4.22 kernel, and now I'm in the same boat as before.

No sound in my old kernel, and no accelerated 3d or sound in the new one.

Anybody?
 
  


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