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Old 02-19-2014, 05:56 AM   #61
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I've noticed a growing trend of fanboyism and a general argumentative nastiness creep into this forum of late. I think it's part of the reason I haven't been posting: the place is becoming increasingly unpleasant to read. When a 10 year veteran of this place says they're off to pastures new, you wish them well, you don't need to start an argument with them out of some mistaken sense of tribalistic loyalty to your chosen distro.


@vdemuth, best of luck with SUSE. I tried it once and it wasn't for me, but if it works for you then fair enough.
 
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:05 AM   #62
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Some members seem to think installing Slackware is like a marriage: with vows about "forsaking all others" and "till death us do part". It's not, but I've seen a lot less fuss made over a divorce, than I have over vdemuth's decision.
 
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:06 AM   #63
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@GazL - I had noticed you have not been posting. I am very glad to know that it was personal choice rather than anything more serious.

@vdemuth - As our BDFL has often reiterated, open source is about freedom of choice. I respect your choice. Have fun!
 
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:18 AM   #64
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LQ is supposed to be a friendly place where newbies as well as seasoned veterans should feel at home.

I do not think there is room here for personal attacks on fellow Slackers who did not mean to troll. So people, please calm down and retract your turds.

Vdemuth is still using Slackware - on his servers! I thought it was attentive of him to share his goodbye wishes in this forum. Too many times, people just fade into nothingness because they no longer care. Vdemuth cared enough for this community to wave goodbye and we have to respect him for that, and for his personal choice to switch to SuSe.

And there is a reasonable probability that he will be back to Slackware anyway :-) Goodbye is no farewell.
I guess people should be more aware of the various 3rd party repositories offering binary packages! Not everything needs to be compiled from source if you are using Slackware. We are not Gentoo or LFS.

Eric
 
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:22 AM   #65
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Alright, I was the first one bashing at vdemuth, I was in a pretty bad mood then, but of course, that is no excuse.

I take back everything I said and wish you all the best vdemuth!
 
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:30 AM   #66
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yes, more repository with usefult utils and games, and another things is very good for slack, in my opinion. There is some of that on AlienBob folder on slackware.com, but more is be a better, imho. slackbuilds.org is better than nothing, sure, but is a bit annoying to download and compile ( throught running a slacbild script) all that things. i do not upgrade very often, as so thats not very bother me, but usually big repository is a good thing. dependancies check - dont know, until this, and if repos is good maintained, i can easy live without automatically dep check...
 
Old 02-19-2014, 06:33 AM   #67
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yes, more repository with usefult utils and games, and another things is very good for slack, in my opinion. There is some of that on AlienBob folder on slackware.com, but more is be a better, imho. slackbuilds.org is better than nothing, sure, but is a bit annoying to download and compile ( throught running a slacbild script) all that things. i do not upgrade very often, as so thats not very bother me, but usually big repository is a good thing. dependancies check - dont know, until this, and if repos is good maintained, i can easy live without automatically dep check...
Have you tried sbopkg?
 
Old 02-19-2014, 06:50 AM   #68
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Some members seem to think installing Slackware is like a marriage: with vows ...
So ... there is dependency resolution, then?

cheers,
 
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:33 AM   #69
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Sometimes caring is misinterpreted - what is worse? Caring or not caring? Shrugging our shoulders and saying "so what?" when someone announces they're going?

However, we also care about Slackware and a public announcement was made criticising it. Leaving it is one thing, shitting on it is another.
 
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:49 AM   #70
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If it is a marriage I've been cheating on it
 
Old 02-19-2014, 08:47 AM   #71
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Yeah, I understand that, and have used sbopkg in the past with assembling build quese, but it's still the time taken to do the build, which is time wasted. As an example, just before I switched, I used sbopkg to install Chromium. It took 3 hrs 17minutes. In Suse, it took slightly less than a minute.
Well, it would be difficult to beat "install a binary package" with "build it from scratch". Since you didn't switch to Gentoo, I assume that you don't want to wait very long for the goodies when you want them. NTTIAWWT. (Honest. Most of the time, you are running software to solve a problem and the original problem normally isn't "how do I compile this other software?")

However, the first time that I built Chromium it took around 3 hours. The second time that I built Chromium, I set MAKEFLAGS to "-j7 " and the build time dropped quite a bit. I just re-built with -j7 and the build time was 32 minutes according to time (and it was running while I was exercising). Some of these builds have a high degree of parallelism and can benefit from multiple jobs.

Even so, you didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday, as the old saying goes. You've made the trade-offs that provide the most value to you. Good luck and godspeed. Drop by every now and then and let us know how it goes.

But don't ask questions about SuSE when you do.

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Old 02-19-2014, 09:00 AM   #72
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Installing my binary Chromium package takes all of 30 seconds... Slackware runs circles around SuSe.

Eric
 
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:22 AM   #73
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If it is a marriage I've been cheating on it
It's an open marriage.
 
Old 02-19-2014, 10:06 AM   #74
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It's an open marriage.
More like livin' o'ert brush (as we say in Oldham).
 
Old 02-19-2014, 10:21 AM   #75
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It's an open marriage.
But what if I currently don't have a partition with Slackware on it?
 
  


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