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onebuck 06-26-2007 08:03 AM

This might as well be called 12.0 RC2!
 
Hi,

Just noticed that PV Released RC2. Got to get back to my current machine.

Too many things on my plate.

Noticed the install is a lot cleaner. I like the usb boot option.
I didn't have any available sticks at the time. I'll re-do the install with RC2 and have a usb to test. The only problem that occurred was the mouse. No biggy, just tweak the conf file.

Carpo 06-26-2007 08:12 AM

i saw this earlier as well :) nice timing i must say as i had just downloaded the infamous mirror-slackware-current.sh file, have got rc2 as it were and have made the iso just waiting to xfer it to pc with a dvd burner in (on laptop atm and it dont have one), hope there has been a lot of advancement in the font hinting for lcd and tft screens i been away from slackware due to one thing and another and that ones the one thing i hated having to sort out :)

onebuck 06-26-2007 08:31 AM

Hi,

I like that PV has moved too the 2.6 kernel as the default. Even though the 2.4 is stable. I still use the 2.4 on my servers. No need to change!

As for your query about font hinting, not sure. I have a laptop that is itching for a slackware install. I'll soon find out.

I really don't think the environment is a fair comparison. If you use 'X' a lot then decide on which environment suits you. As a manager I prefer XFCE. Most people just use 'KDE' then blame problems that occur on Slackware. Don't get me wrong, I use KDE at times but for a laptop I generally use a lighter XFCE.

Carpo 06-26-2007 08:46 AM

i might beat you too it :) disc is almost burnt and this laptop is going to be the test for it, after looking at the build script for freetype on slack 12 i see bytecode is defined but a few other patches arent due to legal reasons - might rebuild it and see if that helps :)

cathectic 06-26-2007 08:47 AM

If by "hinting" you mean the bytecode interpreter for FreeType (plus another patch for subpixel hinting), then the answer is no, this is not enabled by default (as Pat is based in the US, and US patents apply to him, he cannot enable it by default).

However, Pat has provided all you need (patches, modified SlackBuild) in the Slackware sources for FreeType so you can do this quickly and easily yourself - just download source/l/freetype/* from your local mirror/ 12.0 (RCx) disc, uncomment the patch lines and rerun the SlackBuild to create a nice, new, shiny bytecode and sub-pixel hinting enabled FreeType.

Cpoc 06-26-2007 10:04 AM

Slackware 12 is almost ready. I have installed Salckware 12 RC1 on a small production server with LTSP 4.2 and so far it's solid just like a previous install with slackware 11. I just could not wait for offical Slackware 12. I just keep up with the changelogs to make sure it says with -currect until 12 is offical. Then I update -current to every changelog change.

Now that RC2 is out it won't be long now. This new version is a major upgrade form previous versions in Slackware history. You got the 2.6 kernel default, hal, dbus and the list goes on.

It's only lacking pam which I know Pat does not like for personal and security reasons but I am planning to get a new Thinkpad T61 and it has the finger print reader and requires pam for auth. I don't think there is any other way to get this to work without pam auth support.

Carpo 06-26-2007 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cathectic
If by "hinting" you mean the bytecode interpreter for FreeType (plus another patch for subpixel hinting), then the answer is no, this is not enabled by default (as Pat is based in the US, and US patents apply to him, he cannot enable it by default).

However, Pat has provided all you need (patches, modified SlackBuild) in the Slackware sources for FreeType so you can do this quickly and easily yourself - just download source/l/freetype/* from your local mirror/ 12.0 (RCx) disc, uncomment the patch lines and rerun the SlackBuild to create a nice, new, shiny bytecode and sub-pixel hinting enabled FreeType.

i know and thats what i said in my last post :) - used those same patches for slackware 11 too :) - on a different matter how do you get slack 12 installer to use acpi right off the bat - i have an old laptop, when using slack 11 i would just type bareacpi.i and upgrade to 2.6 kernel after that, although atm i cant install slack 12 as the fan never comes on and the system gets hot and then shuts down :( any idears ?

onebuck 06-26-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cathectic
If by "hinting" you mean the bytecode interpreter for FreeType (plus another patch for subpixel hinting), then the answer is no, this is not enabled by default (as Pat is based in the US, and US patents apply to him, he cannot enable it by default).

However, Pat has provided all you need (patches, modified SlackBuild) in the Slackware sources for FreeType so you can do this quickly and easily yourself - just download source/l/freetype/* from your local mirror/ 12.0 (RCx) disc, uncomment the patch lines and rerun the SlackBuild to create a nice, new, shiny bytecode and sub-pixel hinting enabled FreeType.

Hi,

I agree! There are ways to get the TTF, especially if you have a M$ system laying around. But FreeType is the easiest and widely available.

Carpo 06-26-2007 12:36 PM

right having now sorted out the heat issue and having installed slackware 12 - which way do peeps suggest when installing the packages, as i noticed from installing all using the expert option, i notice there are quite a few more packages there than in slackware 11, is it a case of if you dont now or are unsure of what the package is for leave i ticked? or take a chance ;)

onebuck 06-26-2007 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carpo
right having now sorted out the heat issue and having installed slackware 12 - which way do peeps suggest when installing the packages, as i noticed from installing all using the expert option, i notice there are quite a few more packages there than in slackware 11, is it a case of if you dont now or are unsure of what the package is for leave i ticked? or take a chance ;)

Hi,

I'm not sure what you are stating here. Do you want to trim the installation? Or do you wish to install other packages.
Either way, just use pkgtool to install or remove the desired packages.

You should do a 'man pkgtool' from cli to understand the command. You can choose to run installation system setup scripts from pkgtool.

As for the last statement, if you are unsure of anything then leave it be. Investigate, Google or whatever to find out what you need to have or what can be safely removed. Too arbitrarily remove something, then havoc will most certainly happen!

You should check some of the links in my sig! Especially link #1 in the Code: section.

Carpo 06-26-2007 04:24 PM

i meant from the menus and the breif description of each package how do you know which of the many new packages do you need, but its ok now i have installed only what i think i need and will see how i get on with that :)

Tux-Slack 06-26-2007 05:18 PM

I just can't wait for the 12.0 final release :)

Daedra 06-26-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

hope there has been a lot of advancement in the font hinting for lcd and tft screens i been away from slackware due to one thing and another and that ones the one thing i hated having to sort out :)
I have spent a lot of time sorting out this issue, Sub Pixel Hinting can't be straight forward due to patents held by Microsoft, but you can get excellent results with a little re compiling, check out my post from a while back.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ight=beautiful

erklaerbaer 06-26-2007 06:48 PM

Apple is holding the (2) patents. Microsoft has to buy a license itself.

rkelsen 06-26-2007 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpoc
I am planning to get a new Thinkpad T61 and it has the finger print reader and requires pam for auth.

Personally, I wouldn't bother. Those dicky finger print scanners are a pointless (and easily bypassed) waste of time.


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