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Old 06-30-2004, 10:47 AM   #1
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thinking of stepping back to 9.1


I'm experiencing all sorts of issues after 4 days on Slackware 10. Slow disk performance, display issues with xorg, modules not loading correctly, konsole hanging, long boot times, etc. It feels like I'm using Mandrake ;-)
My experience tells me these aren't things I can tweak. No offence to the Slack team, I think it's just the volume of changes that have come about in recent months, but maybe I'm going to wait for 10.1

Anyone else feeling this?
 
Old 06-30-2004, 10:56 AM   #2
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Are you experiencing these module problems etc with the 2.4.26 kernel too? Most of those problems can propably be fixed with a kernel recompile though... Slow booting is propably because of the harddrive thing + hotplug (which can be disabled, you just have to add the modules yo want to load to startup script) Seems like the default kernel doesn't like your system much - I have zero problems with slack 10 for example, rock solid and fast
 
Old 06-30-2004, 11:05 AM   #3
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Well, without detailed info. it's going to be hard to persuade you not to roll back, however, some things to consider.

Slow Disk performance can generally be enhanced by making sure dma is enabled (I actually had to recompile my kernel a couple of times to get mine enabled properly) and by the use of hdparm.

Xorg problems... not sure what problems you're having but I know that I had problems until I created a xorg.conf from scratch only using actual xorg options... moving over xfree86 stuff has been argued to cause problems with the Xserver... especially if you just rename the XFree86 config file to xorg.conf.

Hanging apps is generally an issue with nameserver resolution... make sure that your /etc/hosts file is set up with a seperate line with just your hostname in addition to the info already there.

Slow boot times... obviously, disable services you don't need... but with no more info on what is hanging your boot-up it's hard to offer suggestions...

Modules? Why not compile a kernel with what you need built in... then, you don't have to worry about any modules... except alsa of course...

Not sure any of this helps or if you even wanted to be dissuaded from switching back...
 
Old 06-30-2004, 11:13 AM   #4
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hi

thanks for your responses folks. I might stick with it a bit longer. I do seem to have dma enabled on the hard drive, that's what hdparm shows and yet my disk read speed is half of what is was under 9.1. With xorg my 3D frame rate has dropped by 20%, I get more artifacts on the screen, etc, etc. If you recall, Slackware 9.1 was much more polished than 9.0 so maybe I will try again when 10.1 shows up.
 
Old 06-30-2004, 11:51 AM   #5
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Hehe, you sound like a n00b looking for attention.

Do what you will. . . but 10 works fine for me and it felt just as fast if not faster then 9.1.

You might be only using generic chipset/dma support for your dirves. Do you know how to compile a kernel? It's not hard.

Xorg is just the same as XFree86 4.3.99(99.99.99.99) with a few changes. . . so you should see about the same speed. If you really miss XFree86 4.3 you can always uninstall Xorg, and install the XFree packages from the 9.1 tree. . . Mind you that all programs (that can be) are compiled with Xorg, but the code base is neer the same so things should work.

I think it's funny reading these threads. . . People could learn so much if they just started messing around with their system, but it seems that most want their hand held.
 
Old 06-30-2004, 11:51 PM   #6
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slackmeup or smokemeup?

I say boy, r u smoking crack or what? I've been using Slackware for a couple of years and I figure I've compiled custom kernels no less than 50 times, mostly just for fun, but including several for this release of Slackware 10. My compiles didn't improve disk reads or xorg performance, that's why I wanted to find out if others were experiencing the same thing.

go hold yer own hand ;-)
 
Old 07-01-2004, 02:01 AM   #7
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Well in that case. . .

No, I have not noted any slowdown with Slack 10. For me, it is just as fast as 9.1, 10RC1, and 10RC2.

P.S. - Your wording made me think that you were a n00b. However, sense you are not, then could you tell us a little more about the problem.

Like your hardware specs,
hdparm -tT /dev/hdX (under 9.1 and 10)
and any other related info.
 
Old 07-01-2004, 11:05 AM   #8
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the best thing to do is compile ur own kernels, do urself a favour and go into /usr/src/linux and do a "make menuconfig" and see how everything is compiled as modules
 
Old 07-01-2004, 01:07 PM   #9
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I've also noticed a major slowdown on upgrading to Slack 10. It certainly seems disk-related (anything that's been loaded once then runs plenty fast).

I've also found it screwed up my browser.

Am sadly not impressed by the upgrade. No noticeable improvements and it's broken things that were working just fine.

Hey ho...
 
  


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