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04-17-2005, 09:58 AM
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Durham, UK
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Thinking of Slackware
I'm thinking of moving to slackware but I have a few questions first:
Is there something like apt-get out there I can use
What is the minimum number of iso I have to download to do a full kde based install?
Boffy
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04-17-2005, 10:10 AM
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Norway
Distribution: Slackware, CentOS
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Hi Boffy,
I strongly recommend you switch to Slackware if you value speed and stability.
You might want to have a look at slapt-get here : http://software.jaos.org/#slapt-get
For downloading and installing Slackware, go to one of the mirrors and download the 2 ISO-images (2x640MB) , which are all you need to get Slackware going with KDE 3.3.
-Yalla1
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04-17-2005, 10:25 AM
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: UK
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Short answer, there are 2 that always result in flame wars..
slapt-get, and swaret.
The summary, they are both very good, as long as you know how to use them
For tutorials on how to setup and use them, search these threads.
Enjoy.
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04-17-2005, 12:18 PM
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Location: Durham, UK
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OK thanks guys, I will install them when I get some more CD's. Are the ISO's just the first two offered on the slack site?
Boffy
P.s. I wont cause another flame war by asking which of the two is best, I will find out for myself.
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04-17-2005, 12:20 PM
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Darkest Oxfordshire
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Re: Thinking of Slackware
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Quoth Boffy:
Is there something like apt-get out there I can use
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You could try Swaret or Slapt-get. Neither has anything like the standing that APT has, and some people have been known to have all sorts of problems with them, but plenty more people use them both quite happily. Use your discretion.
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Quoth Boffy:
What is the minimum number of iso I have to download to do a full kde based install?
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Normally, two. Alternatively, you could download the first ISO, and get the KDE 3.4.0 packages from kde.org.
Last edited by AxelFendersson; 04-17-2005 at 07:56 PM.
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04-17-2005, 12:53 PM
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Columbus, OH
Distribution: DIYSlackware
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kde 2.4.0?
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04-17-2005, 01:17 PM
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Following the white rabbit
Distribution: Slackware64 13.37 Android 4.0
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You can do a base install from the first iso.
You can install kde 3.4 using current from the slack site.
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04-17-2005, 01:27 PM
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Registered: Jan 2004
Distribution: Slackware 11 + Dropline Gnome 2.16
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personally, i think that if u want something like apt-get , u should just use debian.
In fact debian and slackware both are very very good distos but in different ways.
For speed and stability use slackware,for good package management use debian
PS:don't get it wrong pls, of course debian is also stable and fast enough, but slack is just faster and more stable 
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04-17-2005, 04:36 PM
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Manchester, UK
Distribution: Debian
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The first two CDs contain the full Slackware install.
The second disk contains the gnome, kde and kdei packages (kdei being internationalisation files for kde), along with kernels and testing packages.
On a slightly different note, surely compressing your music files the open source way involves Ogg Vorbis
Cheers
Amos
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04-17-2005, 09:08 PM
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Registered: Dec 2004
Distribution: debian and slackware
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you should check out gentoo if you have a little bit of time on your hands, might like portage (the gentoo package system) I'm currently using it and in the process of installing more, have kde-base installed so far (took about 2 hours) and I have to say its running even faster then slackware which was what I was using yesterday. If I read right portage is a mix between debian and freeBSD and also takes care of dependencies for you.
my review on slackware its fast, stable, and simple and allows you to learn the system I learned linux pretty well with slack in about 3 months time, but still didn't like the fact all the packages are picked for you along with most other distros. I Think I might stick with gentoo because of the choices, and that way I'll have only the applications I need. I want the most out of my linux box plus If there is a way to have more control over my stuff, I want it. Might try out LFS next if i'm in the mood.
Check out reviews:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/index.php?cat=2
Last edited by xaos5; 04-17-2005 at 09:41 PM.
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04-17-2005, 10:40 PM
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Registered: May 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by xaos5
all the packages are picked for you
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What do you mean? You can only choose to install 5 packages total and have a non-usable system if you want... If your talking about the package-base 'selection', it's fairly extensive. Seeing as how Slack is basically a 'source' distribution, just like all other distro's, you can make your own packages if Pat doesn't have what you need... If you use Slackware, then your probably prone to do this even if you do find a third party package. 
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04-18-2005, 03:18 AM
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Durham, UK
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Originally posted by xaos5
you should check out gentoo if you have a little bit of time on your hands, might like portage
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I tried gentoo this weekend. It took me about 6 hours to doa stage 3 install. It was hell, on the plus side I learned a lot more about the config files. The problem was once I had installed it I went to try and install gaim, only to find I couldnt install GTK++ because of compile error no one had ever seen before. I'd only had it installed 2 hours and that was enough for me. Also I couldnt run in SU under KDE, thats something I cant live with out.
I like the debian idea, i may try that first before slack.
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04-18-2005, 04:21 PM
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Registered: Dec 2004
Distribution: debian and slackware
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Quote:
Originally posted by Boffy
I tried gentoo this weekend. It took me about 6 hours to doa stage 3 install. It was hell, on the plus side I learned a lot more about the config files. The problem was once I had installed it I went to try and install gaim, only to find I couldnt install GTK++ because of compile error no one had ever seen before. I'd only had it installed 2 hours and that was enough for me. Also I couldnt run in SU under KDE, thats something I cant live with out.
I like the debian idea, i may try that first before slack.
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seems strange you would have a gcc error with GTK++ maybe you didn't setup the USE varible in etc/make.conf right and I believe you have to add yourself to the wheel group to use su.
slackware install is fairly simple and fast and only needs one cd if you don't intend on using kde or gnome (gnome isn't going to be in next versions of slack starting with current). I had a hell of a time trying to install woody 3.0 and come to find out its using such old an old version of xfree is wouldn't support my card, oh well I'll try again maybe when its updated.
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04-19-2005, 02:21 AM
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Location: Durham, UK
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Quote:
Originally posted by xaos5
seems strange you would have a gcc error with GTK++ maybe you didn't setup the USE varible in etc/make.conf right and I believe you have to add yourself to the wheel group to use su.
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Oh no. All that work installing gentoo and thats what I forgot!
Aghhhhhh
I might try again when I get a few Hours.
Thanks
Boffy
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