The Ultimate "When Will The Next Slackware Release Arrive" MegaThread

Randux · 08-14-2006, 01:00 PM

Now I know how to avoid being banned- I can say anything I want as long as I put some Slackware release information in the post

XavierP · 08-14-2006, 01:02 PM

You hope....

Darklion · 08-14-2006, 01:05 PM

-- redacted by the NSA --

Bruce Hill · 08-14-2006, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by davidsrsb

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I could really do with a simple method of listing packages not yet installed on a machine.

Someone gave this perl script named scud to me a while back.
Perhaps you can take it and edit it to suit your needs.

nykey · 08-15-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by zetabill

So I've been monitoring the whole udev fiasco from a slight distance. I just get a feeling that udev might end up being the sole reason for a Slackware 11 release holdup.

It's probably too late for any suggestions or maybe even too late for a change. Why not release a 2.4 based Slackware 10.3 as we are used to and the 11 release will be completely 2.6 based with udev and all the fixins?

Also, why not set up a full SysVinit for this case. I rather like the way the Slackware init scripts are set up, but why can't they be used in conjunction with a complete SysV? I tried installing something (I think it was lm_sensors... not sure) that needed something in the init.d directory. I tried a whole bunch of different things to try and get it to work and ultimately gave up on it. There was something about its init script that didn't play well with Slackware at all.

I suppose you can't have everything then...

I say late September for the new Slack.

Well, you could just improvise and create a temporary (or permanent) SysV setup, something like this

Code:

cd /etc
mkdir init.d
for i in {0,1,2,3,4,5,6}; do mkdir rc$i.d; done

This worked for me in several cases... afterwards you could move&rename the executable file from init.d to /etc/rc.d/rc.executable (even chmod +x rc.executable if needed) and this should do it. Good luck.

*EDIT* I know this is somewhat off-topic, but tought it wouldn't hurt to help (or at least try to).

zetabill · 08-15-2006, 12:43 PM

Thanks nykey.

Actually last night (late) I went ahead and gave lm_sensors another try. I did exactly that... mkdir init.d, etc, etc. Other than that I left it the way it was because Pat's rc.sysvinit would have taken care of the rest once all that was there and ready. I'm just going to leave all that there just in case it's needed later. It's only a bunch of empty directories.

As for lm_sensors, I have all the dependencies, I followed all the instructions I could find, I compiled my kernel the way they wanted it, I got past the actual installation and it's still being difficult with i2c-core. I ran into the same problems with packages from Alien Bob and Slacky.it I'm not going to dwell on it nor do I want any help with it yet (especially not in this thread). But I promised I'd report back and I did.

So I was probably wrong about the late September prediction. Especially seeing RC1 yesterday. Checking the changelog today it looks like cleanup work to me.

I'm ready... not in any rush, though.

totoro_dth · 08-15-2006, 06:33 PM

Take a look at upcoming Slackware 11:

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/sl...c1+screenshots

J.W. · 08-15-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hitest

He works very hard to make our distro the best distro on the planet.

Heh - not to be too picky, but I'd say that what you really meant was that he "works very hard to make his distro the best distro on the planet". After all, it really is his distro, we just happen to be lucky (or smart) enough to use it

EvilBill · 08-15-2006, 07:22 PM

I just want to know, is this new Slackware going to be easier to install? That old one, all the stuff you had to do, like out of the stoneage kinda stuff, does it really have to be that way?

I hear slackware is good, really good, I am hoping that middle of the road ability people such as myself [I am old, don't laugh

] can use it.

theoffset · 08-15-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilBill

I just want to know, is this new Slackware going to be easier to install? That old one, all the stuff you had to do, like out of the stoneage kinda stuff, does it really have to be that way?

I hear slackware is good, really good, I am hoping that middle of the road ability people such as myself [I am old, don't laugh

] can use it.

Slackware has probably (and IMHO) the easiest install program of all the distros. The only step which might get you in trouble is partitioning the disk, as there's practically no hand-holding there. Other than that, I think that Slack's "setup" is straight-forward and painless.

I don't think Pat has any need to do more changes to the install process beyond bug-fixes/tiny-little-extra-features.

Maybe you meant easier to configure?

jimX86 · 08-15-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilBill

...is this new Slackware going to be easier to install?...I am old, don't laugh...

You must be talking about Installation Step 5, where it asks you to type in the name of the last CD by Dead Prez

I don't even know what "old" means. I'm 49. Is that old?

There's no reason to believe that the installation for Slackware 11.0 will be changing, but I'm sure you can do it if you decide you want to. The first thread below is called "This is how I do it all", and it has lots of helpful stuff. The thing is, once you get Slackware set up, it will be set up the way YOU want it.

(Yes, I was joking about Dead Prez, so I would appreciate it if nobody flames me for that. You didn't miss that step during the install, and your machines will all run just fine even if you don't know the answer.)

EvilBill · 08-15-2006, 08:14 PM

I only tried to install it once, this was quite a while ago. I can partition the hard drive that's not a problem. What I remember was something about "boot discs" None of the other distros ask for that, why do they do that? Are there ways to install just using what is on the cd? [or DVD]

jimX86 · 08-15-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilBill

Are there ways to install just using what is on the cd? [or DVD]

Yep, it's not even an issue anymore. You can boot from the CD.

hitest · 08-15-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by J.W.

Heh - not to be too picky, but I'd say that what you really meant was that he "works very hard to make his distro the best distro on the planet". After all, it really is his distro, we just happen to be lucky (or smart) enough to use it

Agreed. Yes, well-said.
That is what is so unique and special about Slack; it really is a one man show. We owe Pat a great deal for sharing his work with us. PV rules!

rkelsen · 08-15-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilBill

I just want to know, is this new Slackware going to be easier to install? That old one, all the stuff you had to do, like out of the stoneage kinda stuff, does it really have to be that way?

Out of the stone age?

The average GUI installer is much harder to use than Slackware's (admittedly not as pretty) installer. I've installed Slack many times, and GUI installers like Fedora's and Suse's still scare me. I don't like fluff and gloss. It hides what is going on behind the scenes.

If you want eye candy, and absolutely must use a mouse for everything, Slackware probably isn't for you.