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Old 07-13-2012, 09:29 PM   #91
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Philosophy's differ amongst the Linux distributions, but the core value of Linux remains that of being an open alternative kernel.

While Slackware's philosophy is "less is more, minimalism and simplicity are best", Ubuntu's philosophy could be "make it easier for everyone", while Gentoo's philosophy is more like "customize it the way you like it".

The philosophy of the distribution, rather than the core value of the kernel, is what ends up mattering to people, however at the same time you want to keep people happy, stay consistent, and give a quality product rather than a Hodge-podge of half-assed software.

Software like systemd should ONLY be adopted after it has been tested for a long time to prove it can do the work it was intended to do.

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Old 07-13-2012, 09:31 PM   #92
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Philosophy's differ amongst the Linux distributions, but the core value of Linux remains that of being an open alternative kernel.

While Slackware's philosophy is "less is more, minimalism and simplicity are best", Ubuntu's philosophy could be "make it easier for everyone", while Gentoo's philosophy is more like "customize it the way you like it".

The philosophy of the distribution, rather than the core value of the kernel, is what ends up mattering to people, however at the same time you want to keep people happy, stay consistent, and give a quality product rather than a Hodge-podge of half-assed software.
yea as you know I am not a systemd fan. I just did the devils advocate to get more info thats all. Good night my friend and thanks for the driver info on my n2600..

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Old 07-14-2012, 01:48 AM   #93
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An example of impending doom: udev sources for recent releases are no longer in existence. They are now part of systemd source tarballs. And udisks? That has been deprecated in favour of the new "udisks2". Read http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/...loss-for-linux and weep.
Ignorant Guru is trying to contribute to the solution: now that udev is upgraded on -current, I can also play with his (still alpha) udevil
 
Old 07-14-2012, 01:56 AM   #94
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Ambition based projects often crumble under the weight of too much change too fast, because few projects are willing to continually rewrite code to support new systems that aren't tried and true.

I just realized that Lennart Poeterring is the same author of PulseAudio, which is probably the worst audio management services ever created for Linux systems.

I still can't believe he was quoted as stating that Debian kFreeBSD was a "toy OS". Seems very hard to take someone seriously when they scoff at projects regardless of size trying to bridge gaps and open new doors.
It's because of his arrogance and contempt that I don't use anything associated with his name. He could develop the greatest operating system on the planet for all I care - I wouldn't use it. Not when he has such contempt for BSD and long-established practices in the UNIX ecosystem. His modus operandi is to determine that the present way of doing things needs to be improved, and of course he is the man to improve it. "That will be easy", he says. But when he starts to "improve" it he finds it's not quite as easy as he predicted, and his creations become increasingly complex. Ironically, they also heap more and more patches on top, which he assured us was not his way of doing things. "It will all be so easy", he said. Meanwhile the whole Linux world is expected to go along with his software while he's still learning. In twenty years' time when he grows up he will be looking for an operating system without all the baggage and he will realise the KISS operating systems he derided twenty years ago had it all along. Eventually we all understand why our parents did it this way. It's just a shame Poettering needs to take the rest of us along on his one-man journey.

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Old 07-14-2012, 09:48 AM   #95
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Here is a post I think some of you will like to check out...

https://plus.google.com/115547683951...ts/X3fUhyJREKq
 
Old 07-14-2012, 11:40 AM   #96
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The original question in this thread has been answered by quite a few LQ members among which those who actually are responsible for making any changes. It simply does not get any more authoritative than that. Any rehashing of statements, comparisons with or rallying against other Linux distributions, any laymans psycho-analysis of persons not being able to defend themselves here anyway may help unite distribution users but does not lend more credibility to a topic that has clearly been exhausted three times over. Closure of this thread was sponsored by the capital S and no, you may not buy a vowel.
 
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